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Forum topic by MichaelAgate posted 05-23-2012 02:12 AM 3104 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-23-2012 02:12 AM

Topic tags/keywords: craftex busy bee tools una-gauge ct146

Ok, out of square may be a stretch, but it’s the truth. The CT146 by Craftex (busy bee tools) is 3 thousands of an inch out of square. lol, I know, I have it bad. But my question to you is, do you like to have your fence tilt a few thou away from the blade on the back end, or do you like it DEAD ON. We were using the Beterley UNA-GUAGE, with digital readout what do you use?

-- Michael and Matthew


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#1 posted 05-23-2012 02:20 AM

I get it as close as I can. 3 thou probably not.

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#2 posted 05-23-2012 02:21 AM

Common practice in the real world is to open up the fence about the thickness of a business card. Ive done it for years and many, many others as well. Setting the fence dead on parallel with the blade brings on another set of issues that just dont suit my needs. This setting can vary from saw to saw depending on table depth, etc., etc. Just about anything three thousenths relative to wood is not even a converstion unless were talking about setting planer feed rollers and spindle runouts,etc.

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#3 posted 05-23-2012 02:30 AM

Thanks cabmaker, I come from a Machinist background and the gauge we are using reads digital, it’s actually made for woodworking tools, run out etc. just happened to use it on the fence this evening. A business card would be about 15 thousandths, so I need to open it up a little. Thanks for your reply!

-- Michael and Matthew

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#4 posted 05-23-2012 02:30 AM

Thanks Jumbojack

-- Michael and Matthew

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#5 posted 05-23-2012 02:32 AM

Jonathan, that’s why I posted the question, to get everyone’s opinion. tks for your comment.

-- Michael and Matthew

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#6 posted 05-23-2012 03:35 AM

Matthew,

I have found there are two types of woodworkers. Those that are “dead ons” and those that are “close enoughs”. There are good arguments for both.

I lean much more to the “dead on” side. It is true that since wood is not a static material it will move over time and so extreme accuracy could be ignored. However, I believe that the closer the tolerances you make it when preparing your work the better your outcome will be. It all stems from a strong foundation.

That being said I think a variance of a credit card is too thick for me. One maybe two thousandths is were I sit.

But again that is just me. You need to find what works best for you:).

Very Respectfully and Gratefully,

Nate

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#7 posted 05-23-2012 04:32 AM

You don’t really want it “dead on”. As you rip a board tension is released which can cause binding on the back side of the blade, which can lead to a kick back. The bussiness card gauge is a good trick to set your fence correctly.

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#8 posted 05-23-2012 05:23 AM

MichaelAgate i am a newbee and got my saw from a pawn shop and am just glad it turns on. and i come out with the same amount of fingers when i get thur using it. i just get it as square as i can :)

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#9 posted 05-23-2012 05:28 AM

I set mine dead-on … THEN … I make a few test cuts, and move the rear of the fence away as needed to prevent scoring from the teeth rising from under the table. Once I get the results I want, I lock it down. Don’t be too concerned with a specific number … evaluate the results and let that be your deciding factor.

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#10 posted 05-23-2012 07:57 AM

I toe my fence out a little. Just a little – more than none, less than some.

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#11 posted 05-23-2012 08:39 AM

I prefer dead on, but I dont loose any sleep if its off a couple thousands.

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#12 posted 05-23-2012 09:03 AM

Sometimes these fences aren’t truly straight, meaning “Dead on” or “perfect” don’t exist for them. If you adjust the fence dead on, and your fence bows a smidge in the wrong direction, the result can be binding and kickback. For that reason, I prefer to toe my fence out very slightly….like the thickness of a folded dollar bill….that works great for folks who never move the fence to the other side of the blade to cut bevels, but can cause a “toe in” if the fence gets moved to the opposite side. If you’ve got a left tilt saw and never move the fence to the left of the blade, a slight toe out is safer.

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#13 posted 05-23-2012 09:39 AM

I prefer mine out a bit as well.

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#14 posted 05-23-2012 10:07 AM

It might work to move the fence by the thickness of a folded dollar bill but here in Canada we don’t have dollar bills and the thickness of a loonie would be way too much.

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#15 posted 05-23-2012 11:58 AM

AmericanCanuck – I died at your comment. LOL yes a loonie may be a bit oversized for this. LOL still LOLing.

-- Michael and Matthew

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