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05-22-2012 06:11 AM

On my journey as a wood worker i have been influenced and inspired by to many to just narrow it to just one. “it seem as if i just copy and i do but i believe to give credit where credit is due.” another wood worker commented to me on saying this on a project i posted we all have some master that have influenced us. i myself had came up with 20 people. that had with little thought on it and there are more and put there names in a hat and drew one ,this is the one i drew out. at the age of 5 r 6 there was an old man that moved into our neighbor hood . as most kids we wondered around on our street and was playing in the neighbors yard . they had a old man that lived in a shop behind there house a handy man i suppose.he was building something and was using a piece of broken glass as a scrapper and i asked what he was making just curious. as we all were at that age he said a chess board .i said a what it looks like a checker board he said same thing but a different game. i will teach you when i get thur with it . i was full of anticipation and went home . i got home and man got a whipping for not telling anyone where i was at .i did sneak back and told him i was not allowed to come back and he said to mind your mama.well he called my mom and she said it was ok to go but let her know where i was at.i told her that daddy said not to go around that niggers house well i got another whipping by my mom then and she told me to never call an elder by anything but by there name and if she heard it again she had plenty of things laying around for another one.my dad didnt say anything as he was gone most of the time and mom gave a lot harder whipping then he did.i never did win a game playing him and we played for a few years.he would always say but you are learning from a master .but as we played he was always building stuff i wasnt interested at that time in wood work .i grew and got to a masters level by age seventeen at chess. he was right he said always learn for a master we all have someone that has crossed our path and inspired us . his name was Joe ,that was the name i drew from the lot in my hat and there are more.but on this blog post one name of someone that has helped you on your journey as a honor to them. but just one or at least wait a while before posting another .i will start his name was only Joe as i never knew his last name.

post #01 Joe
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In the game of chess a master is one who has achieved a rating higher than average player but also had a passion for the game and teaches other.

-- Jesus Is Alright with me


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#1 posted 05-22-2012 06:48 AM

“it seem as if i just copy and i do but i believe to give credit where credit is due.”

Poetry my man.

Great reflection. Good news.

-- Chance Four "Not Just a Second Chance"

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#2 posted 05-22-2012 11:25 AM

I know who I want to be my master.
I know who needs to be my master.
I know who is my master;)

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#3 posted 05-22-2012 02:59 PM

I have no master of this world, although there have been many who have inspired me growing up and even now.
Since your story comes from a mentor at a young age. It made me think about those that inspired and mentored all of us at such a young age.

For myself, the person that inspired and mentored me the most at such a young age was my grandfather. My grandfather was a metal fabricator and welder. Although my grandfather never taught me hands on metal fabrication or welding, he did teach me a lot more than I thought for at the time.

He was a strict man who insisted that you abide by his rules if you wanted to enter his domain, and he backed it up not with his words but his eyes, which told you he meant business. The first rule to enter into his shop was you stood by the door at the top of the steps and waited until he saw you and said you could come into the shop. His second rule was that you didn’t touch anything in his shop, no matter what it was. His favorite trick was to heat up a quarter and leave it on the floor to see who would pick it up. I can’t begin to tell you how many cousins let out a yell. He’d always snicker and say I told you not to touch anything. So you knew his rules to his domain. Once he knew you knew how to behave in his shop he would explain things to me about things he was working on. He always said if you want to learn something sit down and watch and shut up. He said that way your questions will be more direct.

So when I was about 12 and my grandfather was retiring I made him a drill bit sharping gauge for his shop. Another mentor help me with this project. He own a saw sharpening business and allowed me access in his shop because of the lessons I had learned from my grandfathers shop. Another story for another time. Anyway I took this piece of stainless steel and made this drill bit gauge all by myself with the saw shop guy providing instruction. When I gave this to my grandfather as a gift, it was he that listened as a student, when he ask me how I made it. After I explained all that I had done, he said you learned well. Years later I learned he never used it, but it was his prize shop tool that he bragged to everyone that I had made for him.

By the way, the reason my grandfather’s shop was so interesting to a young boy. Was because all his machining tools were belt driven. It was fascinating to watch all those belts and pulleys, shaft rings and levers turning and spinning around.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#4 posted 05-22-2012 04:40 PM

I have no earthly master but mentors. The person I considered and was a master, was my father-in-law Stan. Stan was the third generation woodworker in his family and practiced his trade for close to 60 years. He specialized in doors and windows and built so many amazing pieces including doors and windows for movie stars, Disneyland and many high-end projects for the Newport Beach set. He could always find a way to do an operation that others couldn’t. When Disneyland was building the Toon Town section of Disneyland, the contractor had already gone to many different sash and door companies to build the doors and windows for Toon Town, but the other companies could not figure out how to build the windows, many of which where convex and concave in the same window, all true divided lights and some having broken muntins and glass with the shape of Roger Rabbit (supposedly having run through the window). Stan accepted this job and not was able to build all the pieces they wanted ahead of schedule. One of the the problems he had to solve was how to cut the stops for these most irregular windows, to cut each one separately would have taken days per window to make with lot’s of trial and error. What he came up with was to grind some shaper knives to include the stops for the windows cutting the sash and stop together. It worked perfectly and he received a bonus for his fine work and being ahead of schedule. Stan was not only a genius when it came to wood working but one of the finest humans I’ve ever know.
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#5 posted 05-22-2012 04:46 PM

in the game of chess a master is one who has achieved a rating higher than average player but also had a passion for the game .

Dave your a mess .i do agree we all have that master

-Jonathan- i have the same one unfortunely

*Gregn *that was a great store as a kid that would be a fasinting place to hang, A

-Jonathan- i think i have that one too;:)

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#6 posted 05-22-2012 04:50 PM

Money is my master
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-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 05-22-2012 04:52 PM

a1Jim Stan was a master of his craft,i can not even fathom the depth of knowledge to accomplish that job and doubth very few could

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#8 posted 05-22-2012 04:53 PM

AL . LOL

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#9 posted 05-22-2012 05:45 PM

Mine Großvater (My Grandfather)

A soft spoken man, born of German immigrants. I learned much of my woodworking disciplines from him.

He was a man of few words but a great teacher. He taught to ‘build it in your mind’ and therefore eliminate mistakes and waste.

My closing signature is a statement which he repeated before we would begin any Project and it has remained my pledge to this day.

He now resides, for he last 27 yrs., with the Carpenter of our Faith and is sorely missed.

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#10 posted 05-22-2012 06:05 PM

GrandpaLen he was a wise man

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#11 posted 05-22-2012 10:04 PM

My father was a gruff and angry man.

I must have been seven when I got into some screwdrivers and tried my hand at driving some slotted screws into some hard wood. I was sure the screwdrivers were junk as the tips kept breaking as I went about my practice. I’d slam the screws with a hammer then try to turn them into the wood.

I am alive today because the practice was at grandpa and grandma’s house. When grandpa got home, and after I searched his lunch box to find that half sandwich he left for me (and grandma made extra to play out this little game each day) he discovered my efforts.

Good thing mom and dad both worked. If it had been my father and his tools, I would have been killed.

Grandpa just taught me the difference between his fine chisels and screwdrivers and how to use them. He seemed to realize there was obviously a misunderstanding about the subject.

Some twenty-five years later, as I sat on the curb with my things the soon to be X wife had placed there, it occurred to me I needed to choose a role model that was a little more of a gentleman than the gruff and self-centered role model I had been exposed to … my father.

Maybe people were more important than things. Free Will in play, I chose to be grandpa long before I got to be a grandpa. I think that is a lesson not often talked about … the idea that you can choose who you will be.

Emil Greenwald was his name. Good man, gentle man. He was a woodworker with his priorities in just the right place. I am thankful to have had him to help me understand.

I never feel closer to my maker as when I am deep in the teaching of the skills I have learned. It all seems to make sense.

-- Chance Four "Not Just a Second Chance"

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#12 posted 05-22-2012 10:32 PM

nomercadies he was a God sent ,it a slang term i use for some people i have crossed paths with in lifes highway . i have been homeless before too and it a humbling thing to go thur sounds like you weathered out that storm very well.

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#13 posted 05-22-2012 10:51 PM

My inspiration came from a man I never met, my paternal grandfather. He was a master mason and most of the things he built are still standing. I live within sight of one of his greatest achievements. It’s now owned by the Jehovah’s Witnesses to print their literature. It’s a one hundred foot tower and the stone work is still original and not even cracked. When I get into a job that seems to big for me, I just remember who’s blood I have running through my veins.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#14 posted 05-22-2012 11:15 PM

Russell you have a master crafts man blood in your veins no doubt there .you your self have proven that and good luck on your new wood shop
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-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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#15 posted 05-22-2012 11:24 PM

Thanks Eddie, what a nice thing to say.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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