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alfa189

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05-18-2012 09:11 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question cyclone dust collector

Been scouring LJ for some insight, but wanted to throw it out here. And yeah, I know the old “you’re gonna get 10 different opinions from 10 different people” thing, but I want the 10 opinions…lol.

So here goes: I was wandering around my friendly neighborhood Woodcraft and happened to spy with my little eye, a Laguna 3hp Cyclone. I made a sound similar to the little green aliens in Toy Story..”Ohhhhhhhhhh…Awwwwwwwweee”. Price tag was around 1200-1300-ish. I get on LJ and find a revew of the thing and lots of people had not-so-nice things to say about it.

You are my people. I listen when you say something sucks (insert stupid pun here), or in that case DOESN’T suck as well as it should. So I start lookng around and, as I always do, I can’t help but check out Grizzly. They have the G0441 for $1450, 3hp Cyclone. But no info on the machine on LJ that I could find.

So in conclusion (you’re welcome), I’m looking for a SOLID 3hp cyclone performer in the sub $1500 range. What do y’all think?

-- "It's not a mistake. It's a design feature."


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#1 posted 05-18-2012 09:24 PM

Many here will argue ClearVue is a good option.

My vote is for Penn State Industries (great quality products with CS to go with it). (priced well also)

2nd choice is Oneida Dust Collectors many varieties and also good CS.

I have a 1 1/2 HP dust destroyer that I purchased due to space limitations (great design & quality). In a few years when I get a new shop built I will purchase a 2.5HP tempest that will suffice all the pipe length and drops I will need.

Enjoy hope that helps you some,
John P.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 05-18-2012 09:35 PM

I would not be afraid of the Grizzly, it has a lot of enhanced design features others lack. My first choice would be a CV, the Griz likely second. The Oneida (which I have) would be last…or at least in the bottom group.

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#3 posted 05-18-2012 09:51 PM

i like penn state

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#4 posted 05-18-2012 09:55 PM

Oneida

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#5 posted 05-18-2012 09:58 PM

Oneida, dude, no-brainer. If you like the lust factor of the Laguna, check out the friggin super gorilla, baby!
My next collector.
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#6 posted 05-18-2012 10:06 PM

Fred, Why would you place the Oneida at the bottom of the list?

I have a ClearVue that I really like, but the cost is around $1600 plus maybe an extra day to assemble everything.

I would guess that many people place Oneida at the top 1 or 2 positions on the list.

Grizzly is usually a good price with quality that is expected by their offshore manufacturing. Penn State and Laguna are probably similar. All should be in the $1300 range. ClearVue and Oneida are a few hundred extra, but you get made in the US quality. You may spend another $1000 or more for ducting and blast gates. The extra cost for ClearVue or Oneida is fairly insignificant.

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#7 posted 05-18-2012 10:12 PM

The one Al has shown is exactly what I have, only differance is I removed the filter and piped it outside. Much quieter that way. Ive been using it I guess about six years now without any problems. It will be run continuiously 4-6 hours on many days and also has been subjected to short durations. I would recomend it. Cant say if it is the best in its price range or not but I dont know anyone that can confirm that it is not. JB

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alfa189

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#8 posted 05-18-2012 10:55 PM

Al: One thing about the Laguna that I really liked was it had two clamps that held the lid to the collection barrel. And when you were ready to dump it, you released the two toggle clamps, the lid comes up several inches, and the cannister rolls out to be dumped…kind of a cool litle feature. I can’t really tell, but does the Oneida have this?

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alfa189

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#9 posted 05-18-2012 11:12 PM

Now I’m kinda looking at this guy, but the 3.5 hp model….It’s the Penn State Industries Tempest…Anyone have one??

-- "It's not a mistake. It's a design feature."

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#10 posted 05-19-2012 12:21 AM

Another ClearVue lover here … I go for performance, not pretty … and this thing SUCKS !!!

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#11 posted 05-21-2012 11:31 AM

“Fred, Why would you place the Oneida at the bottom of the list?”

Steve, I put Oneida there because of it’s basic design…it doesn’t have the extra features of the Pentz to separate every spec of dust, and with mine…it doesn’t. I spend way too much time cleaning my filter…the time isn’t that much of a big deal as is the possibility of damage to the (expensive) filter itself. When I’m using my DS a lot, I’ll have to clean about twice per 35 gallon drum of chips. What comes out of the filter is flour…the finest of the dust. With the air ramp/correct neutral vane/squared sloping inlet/body dimensions of the pentz design you separate the last 1%...which is the finest particles. I try not to get into the details too often, as I’m always bashed for being an Oneida hater. So, let me say….I’m sharing my experience which has formed my opinions about the unit. A lot of times this will also get into a trouble shooting session to “solve” my problem, I’ve already spent hours (literally) working on it with Oneida; my system is doing the best it can and working as Oneida designed it.

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#12 posted 05-21-2012 12:33 PM

Hands down , get the Oneida. I use it everyday for hours and have no issues. bob

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#13 posted 05-21-2012 01:32 PM

Can’t beat the CV, and it’s very easy and quick to assemble. I watched a video where it sucked a tape measure up thru it, now that’s suction.

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#14 posted 05-21-2012 02:10 PM

Alfa, I don’t think any of the Oneidas have that particular feature but if you look at the gorilla, there’s a little handle and flexible tubing. It wouldn’t be too difficult to add a spring mechanism if all you want is the connector to clear the basin.
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The 3hp super gorilla retails for $1680
http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XGK030105H&CatId={7F6C8978-92E8-4902-9A37-D8A254EDF4FC}
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The 5hp for $1785
http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XGK050105H&CatId={7F6C8978-92E8-4902-9A37-D8A254EDF4FC}
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The 5hp Clearvue Pentz for $1845
http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/cv-max/20-cv-max-single-phase-with-filters.html
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So the price difference is negligible. The Clearvue is clearly a very nice machine. I wouldn’t buy anything from PSI except pen kits, but that’s just me.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#15 posted 05-21-2012 02:34 PM

I have the Oneida Super Dust Gorilla and use it extensively for 10-12 hours at a time on some days. I have had it for over 4 years and it has been a workhorse. The Baldor motor is top notch quality.
I love it…

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