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Forum topic by PaulfromVictor posted 05-16-2012 02:30 PM 1032 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-16-2012 02:30 PM

Hello All.

I just came accross the opportunity to buy some barn beams. I took a piece of one home to clean up a bit, and hopefully i.d. the wood. I am thinking this might be douglas fir, but wanted to get your opinions. It came from a barn in upstate NY that was built in 1904.

Thanks.
Paul


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#1 posted 05-16-2012 02:35 PM

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#2 posted 05-16-2012 02:36 PM

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#3 posted 05-16-2012 02:59 PM

It looks like doug fir to me too, but I’m not familiar with the other local woods in upstate NY.

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#4 posted 05-16-2012 03:31 PM

I agree doug fir.

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#5 posted 05-16-2012 03:35 PM

If it looks like a duck (fir), walks like duck (fir) and quacks like duck (fir)... then…
it’s a duck (fir)!

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#6 posted 05-17-2012 01:19 AM

It does look like doug fir. I know that a lot of hemlock was also used in that area for barns. It would not surprise me if it was eastern hemlock. Old growth hemlock can be fine grained like that. The way to tell is to look at the end grain. Douglas fir has resin canals, but hemlock does not. Resin canals are scattered in the latewood as distinctly larger pores. Hemlock does not have these obviously bigger scattered pores. You might have to use a magnifying glass or a 10X hand lens, and you will have to take a razor blade or sharp knife to make a clean slice on the end grain.

This PDF file shows what resin canals look like.

http://www.faculty.sfasu.edu/mcbroommatth/Lectures/Wood_Science/Lab_2_Resin_Canal_Species.PDF

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#7 posted 05-17-2012 01:44 AM

It appears, to me, to be Douglas Fir.

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#8 posted 05-17-2012 02:31 AM

I agree the grain pattern looks dougish, but the color to me is western red cedar. The sample here at Hobbit House is the color, but wider grain.

Doug fir is significantly heavier than western red cedar. I wish I could be more scientific than that.

Kindly,

Lee

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#9 posted 05-17-2012 03:55 AM

I live in upstate new york, and I’ve done a little work with reclaimed wood, and the wood you have pictured is most likely Hemlock.

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#10 posted 05-17-2012 11:45 AM

Thank you all for your input.

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#11 posted 05-17-2012 11:52 AM

Check for resin canals!! Western red cedar does not have them, either.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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#12 posted 05-17-2012 02:36 PM

Wow! This has been a cool discussion. It is wonderful to have such learning available. Thanks to all.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#13 posted 05-22-2012 02:16 PM

I have a good amount of this stuff too. Hemlock is definitely abundant in the area. You could always stop by pittsford lumber and they can tell you what it is. I have a good mix of doug fir, old growth white pine, and old growth spruce that I’ve salvaged from a couple of my barns/outbuildings.

http://lumberjocks.com/superstretch/blog/25981

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#14 posted 05-22-2012 09:29 PM

Hemlock

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