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Forum topic by lysdexic posted 05-16-2012 02:30 AM 2388 views 0 times favorited 128 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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lysdexic

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05-16-2012 02:30 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane

Some of us have many, many planes and often multiples of the same type. From the perspective of completing a project, say a wall hung tool cabinet, how do you guys tune your duplicate bench planes for different operations.

My thoughts:

Blocks
-LA, adjustable mouth, thin shaving for end grain
-One ready for chamfering

Smoothers
-High angle frog or back bevel for tough grain
-4 1/2 to cover area quickly
-3 for smaller applications

Jacks
-strong camber to follow a scrub
-slight camber for general stock removal
-low angle for end grain and shooting board

Jointers
-general purpose flattening/jointing
-fence for long edge jointing (maybe)
-high angle (bevel up) for jointing tough grain

What else do you tune your bench planes for? So when they come off the shelf or out of the till they are ready to….....?

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali


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Don W

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#1 posted 05-16-2012 11:43 AM

You mention scrub, don’t forget it.

Blocks, I like to have a normal and low angle. I have seen a few with a camber as well, (like a small jack).

I just made my #4 jack, but I think its going to be useful as well. For the few bucks a cheap #4 cost, it may be worth having around.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#2 posted 05-16-2012 12:02 PM

I think that’s a pretty respectable list. I use a standard angle block much more than a low angle; I prize the low angles more, though. I’ve never used a backbevel on a smoother. I tend to just use multiple #4s, each set to a thicker/thinner pass. I wouldn’t leave out a scraper plane but it doesn’t have to be a fancy one (#81 is my most used). I like to have a jack around with the frog set back and the bevel a little larger. I don’t fuss with cambers too much, but I probably should. I don’t own a luxurious BU jointer but I wish I did. I use the #8 for skew flattening and the #7 for jointing. As you probably remember, I spring the joint usually with the #3 or #4. Did we ever find out if I was describing that correctly?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#3 posted 05-16-2012 12:26 PM

The real reason I ask is because I I have 3 jointers and looking for another. One side of my conflicted brain says that is crazy. I was sharpening last night and wondering why have more than one jointer. So in my effort to rationalize, I assigned a couple to slightly different tasks and I have them tuned and ready to go…..

LN #7 for jointing
Veritas BU with fence for edge/square jointing
(same) Veritas BU that I can put a 50 degree iron in for tough grain

So, Al, do you tune your #8 in any way for skew flattening? Wider mouth and heavier cut? Is it tuned and at the ready for this purpose?

This may give me a functional reason to have that third jointer, other than I just like to have it.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#4 posted 05-16-2012 12:28 PM

Scott, I have 4. I decided to sell 2. Wait, I have 5. Who’s crazier?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#5 posted 05-16-2012 01:13 PM

Don, actions speak louder than words. You are an accomplished rescuer and restorer of neglected planes. I am not. I would expect you to have lots ‘o planes. Me, do I really have a reason to have 4 jointers? Of the ones that you keep, are you going to tweek them for different purposes?

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#6 posted 05-16-2012 01:19 PM

So your looking for the sane answer. I can only give you justification for 2, and even that is a stretch. One with a fence and one without. I don’t “spring” my glue UPS, so if you do, I guess you could add one more. See, you’re not as crazy as Al thought.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#7 posted 05-16-2012 01:34 PM

^No, he is;) He’s sexier than I thought at first, too. Scott, I just like jointers, so I can’t see how you could have too many. On my #8, I just grind the bevel dead flat then knock off the corners a hair. I set it for a pretty light cut and just plan to be there a while. A delicate camber (RG-1) makes a lot of sense, too, but I’d have a hard time establishing it on the big #8 iron. If you want to spend mucho $$$, you could get the jig for your wet wheel.
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I tend to not enjoy really aggressive planing (scrub, etc.). I’d rather spend more time than more effort. I’ve got bad shoulders b/c LSU ortho operated on them. You won’t get any argument from me about buying more jointers. In fact, both the BU and standard LN were really close to coming home with me. I can’t buy any more planes until I finish my linen press and bench. Unless, of course, I need a new one for my linen press and bench construction:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#8 posted 05-16-2012 02:14 PM

Jeez, Al, I hope you didn’t get bad shoulders from improper use of your shoulder planes!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 05-16-2012 02:20 PM

Ba bum Pysssh (cymbal crash)! ;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 05-16-2012 02:22 PM

Every time I read a forum topic on planes I feel like I need to acquire more planes… i only have 4, a couple of #5’s and a couple of block planes… but it all makes sense now!! I really do need more planes! Jointer is next on my list… thanks for the great insight!

-- Chris G. ; Los Angeles, CA

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#11 posted 05-16-2012 02:39 PM

I have a very nice type 5 number 7 for sale. <wink>

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#12 posted 05-16-2012 02:46 PM

I have just purchased my first few planes but on principle I haft to say my opinion is that when you buy a tool your really practicing and refining your tool buying skills, so if your getting a plane for a purpose it is a squandering of a skill your developing to not buy another one and another one and well you get the point.

I am interested in seeing how this plays out as I will have multiple hand planes of the same type.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#13 posted 05-16-2012 03:15 PM

I’m no help at all here. The till has one of each bench plane, and that’s enough of a variable to allow slightly different configs of jacks, smoothers, jointers, etc. without harboring multiples of any given number.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#14 posted 05-16-2012 03:17 PM

^Smitty claims to have no duplicates. I am skeptical:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#15 posted 05-16-2012 03:34 PM

Thats why I like Smitty, he is my kind of guy. The voice of reason amongst the planaholics. And since he has only one of each he has more of a variety, such as his numerous joinery planes(side rabbet planes and such).

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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