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Forum topic by Craftsman on the lake posted 05-14-2012 10:09 AM 1668 views 0 times favorited 57 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Craftsman on the lake

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05-14-2012 10:09 AM

Interesting…. someone posts a controversial topic. A lot of people disagree initially and let him know. As you read through the list of replies more and more people begin agreeing with the poster. Suddenly we’ve gone from “you’re wrong” to “I agree with everything you say”.

How is this accomplished? The poster selectively blocks all those who disagree with him. Eventually he comes out right as all that is left are the people who post what he likes. The thread continues only with a group of like minded people.

I think they post these sometimes, really of the wall stuff, just so they can have a blog thread that makes them look right eventually.

Not every person is blocked for this reason. Sometimes it is a good reason. The block is nice to have so one isn’t harassed. But it can be used like a tool too.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.


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#1 posted 05-14-2012 10:18 AM

Maybe if we just stuck to woodworking and the controversy about whether Titebond II is as good as Titebond III, we’d have less blocking and more constructive discussion.
Then there would be no need to block anyone!

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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#2 posted 05-14-2012 10:38 AM

I guess i won’t be blocking you Ellen as I agree. LOL!

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#3 posted 05-14-2012 10:42 AM

most of the active jocks here know where these come from and after i looked at some of the posts from some of them, i think there heavily into just wanting to get people riled up about anything with controversy, none of it even comes close to wood working and i personally will not go into there threads, i had a small experience with one over the weekend, and because of my anniversary joke, he said i was a transvestite , and blocked me, not that i care as i never talk to the guy, but its all things that cause bad feelings, and isnt enjoyable at all, so i just stay away from it, ive voiced my concern with the powers that be and they know my feelings, so today im going to post my most recent project and then will start on a new one….im excited over it, will be making more gifts for the folks who vinyled my home…have a great day dan, and ellen, and all who stop by here today…grizzzman

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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grizzman

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#4 posted 05-14-2012 10:47 AM

ive never tried titebond lll before, as titebond does everything i need…does titebond 3 take longer to set up, and ive heard it turns brown when it dries, i wonder if i should use just elmers, as it dries clear, some things i make the glue gets into the area i dont want glue showing, and its hard to get it sanded out, i wonder if the elmers glue would eliminate that…what do ye say all…......

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Craftsman on the lake

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#5 posted 05-14-2012 10:59 AM

You’re so off topic griz. You’re talking woodworking here! Iitebond 2 is my standard glue, I’ve used 3 for when I do stuff that might get wet. It does dry tannish colored. It also is less sticky and lets you manipulate the joint longer. Both dry and hold the wood really well.

White glue is very good too. One advantage, that was important when I made guitars, is that with a flatiron you can heat it and it will come apart. Important when you need to replace a fretboard.

I almost never use it now because unlike yellow glues it doesn’t sand. It dries to a shiny smooth patch and it must be scraped off. If you sand it, it will wear the wood down around it and the glue will be the high spot. yellow glue sands pretty much like the surrounding wood.

Interesting side note. Many, many years ago the US army needed to know the strength of certain glues. They glued and clamped, using Elmers glue, 4” of the ends of two 2×4’s overlapping each other and clamped. When put under stress the 2×4 always broke someplace else besides the glue joint. Good thing as, guitars, under a lot of string pressure are held together with just glue.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#6 posted 05-14-2012 11:08 AM

I think someone needs to discover a kick *ss wood glue that doesn’t stick to clothing. I could buy a new table saw with all the blue jeans i’ve ruined. :)

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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#7 posted 05-14-2012 11:15 AM

Glue haters. Don’t block me bro…................

-- mike...............

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grizzman

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#8 posted 05-14-2012 11:16 AM

very good info on glue dan, and as far as i can see, you are off topic as well, should we block each other , say for 5 minutes, and then patch things up and unblock…...that could be fun…lol…...ive wondered over starting my own web site, i will call it lumberblocks…i still have some details to work out, but you get the jest of what the main topic and activity would be, i might take a poll to see who would like it..and i might even charge to join, i might get blocked over that…it would be a cool way to start a new web site, oh, am i off topic again…darn…forgive me…....but i think i might try using white glue on some test projects ans see how it goes, another thing i want to get more into is using card scrapers, todd clippenger did a blog on them and how to sharpen them, and stumpy nubs also did his show on them, ive never really tried them, its a whole new world i shall get into…i think it will help me with some of my glue problems…another wood working topic im excited about, and nothing to get upset about to block me…grizz

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#9 posted 05-14-2012 11:22 AM

i wear carhartt bibs, that can stand up on there own because of the glue that is on them, in fact there is so much glue, i dont even need to wash them anymore, i wonder what were onto here…this could be a conspiracy about glue…....i wonder if we could make wood stick together with just spit…...

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Craftsman on the lake

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#10 posted 05-14-2012 11:24 AM

Yes, i really liked Stumpy’s little card scraper sharpener block. I think I’ll make one and mount it someplace. If I had one I’d probably touch mine up more often instead of using it duller.

I’ve actually got a couple dozen scrapers. My brother worked at the Portsmouth naval shipyard long ago as a nuclear pipe welder. he’d bring home various thicknesses of stainless steel. most pieces about,5×7” or so. The thinner ones really work well. I’ve been on the lookout for one of those stanley #80 cabinet scrapers. I’ve seen them on ebay and such. I might make one of the wooden ones shown by stumpy. It looks like it would work well.

I also use glass. I go to he glass place and ask them for some scraps in their barrel. Put them in a paper bag and tap them with a hammer. One side will always have a nice edge and you get some pieces with some nice curves. And contrary to popular belief, it doesn’t cut your fingers to use it.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#11 posted 05-14-2012 11:27 AM

Miles, I have jeans with solid patches of glue the size of a dinner plate on the sides. I know what you’re saying!

our old sheets wear out and I rip them into 6” strips. When i can think of it I grab one and slip it over my belt and let it hang down. As I glue I wipe my hands on the strip instead. I’m still in trouble as I only remember to use the cloth half the time.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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Bertha

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#12 posted 05-14-2012 11:31 AM

COL, You’ll love the #80. I’ve got quite a few scrapers, too, and it’s definitely my favorite.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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jackass

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#13 posted 05-14-2012 11:37 AM

Hey Griizzman,
You’d have to drink a bottle of Gorilla Glue to make wood stick together with spit.
Jack

-- Jack Keefe Shediac NB Canada

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#14 posted 05-14-2012 11:40 AM

I had a friend who is a retired school principal and I had patched some rotted lumber for him using epoxy. He called me one day at school and asked me to patch a spot under a window on the second floor.
Memo to self: epoxy, high wind, and new slacks do not go well together. By the time I was finished and saw the slacks, it was too late to clean them. The good news is that I am wearing them to school today.

-- jstegall

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#15 posted 05-14-2012 11:43 AM

the only problem i find with being blocked
is you don’t know it
until you read all the comments first
then go to write something
and you can’t ‘cause you been blocked
(i just don’t go there much anymore
arguments and discussions
are two different birds)

kind of like being invited to someone’s house
and being leered at at the front door

i made a special order box from purpleheart once
and used epoxy for it
the guy left it in a puddle
and it came apart

so i took it back
and cleaned the glue off
and used titebond II
(after wiping with lacquer thiner)
and it held real good

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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