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05-13-2012 08:20 PM

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I have a pair of what I THOUGH were #3 smooth planes. That is, until the other day when i sat them beside each other. Hmm…

Sitting in front of that bailey #8c, is my Stanley Defiance #3 little guy. Iron width is 1-3/4”, base is 2-1/8” wide, by 9-3/16” long.

Now, the other “Number three’ is by Union MFG. Co. pre-1917. Supposed to be a #3c. Sitting beside the other #3, this is a fat-butt plane. Iron is a size 4 two inches wide. Base sizes are 9-7/16” long, by 2-3/8” wide.

So, what do I have here? A skinny #3? A skinny #4c? Was the Union a different size three than stanley’s #3.

Inquiring Minds would like to know…..

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#1 posted 05-13-2012 09:49 PM

Bandito (yea you got a new name) ... ive got a union #3 and union #4 ill go measure ….

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#2 posted 05-13-2012 10:01 PM

Union #3 : 2 1/8” wide, 9 1/4” long (to the back of the handle), iron is 1 3/4”.

Union #4: 9 7/16” long, 2 3/8” wide, 2” iron.

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#3 posted 05-13-2012 10:06 PM

So, now El bandito has 3 number fours, and a single number three. Must mean time to go out looking for another #3. Maybe find another #3c ?

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#4 posted 05-13-2012 10:14 PM

Does the union in question have a stamp on the toe? Both the ones i have are marked. I dont know mine both have lateral adsjustments, yours doesnt. I found the #3 at a antique store and the #4 was my wifes grandfathers and i dont think ive ever tried to date them. It could be a unmarked with a union lever cap.

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#5 posted 05-14-2012 12:15 AM

According to Murlands Antique tool value guide, the #3 is 1 3/4” and the#4 is 2”. That’s if you look at the G series.(corrugated or grooved as union calls it). The smooth bottom series list both as 1 3/4” wide. Not sure if its a typo or not. Id assume they’d both be the same. They are all listed as 8” long.

Edit, this is for Union Bench planes.

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#6 posted 05-14-2012 12:44 AM

The main reason there is no lateral is that sometime in it’s past lives, someone broke off a piece of the frog, and might have taken the lateral with it. No numbers are stamped on the base, anywhere.

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