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05-10-2012 07:12 PM

Topic tags/keywords: police action like arizona political joke

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#1 posted 05-10-2012 07:23 PM

“When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die.” – BEAUTIFUL! LOL!!!!

-- If you don't work, you don't eat!.....Garland, TX

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#2 posted 05-10-2012 07:57 PM

We need more police officers like that!

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#3 posted 05-11-2012 01:37 AM

He just UAD (up and died). Should be more of them!

-- *Arachnoleptic Fit*: The frantic dance performed just after you've accidently walked through a spider web.

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DaveHuber

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#4 posted 05-11-2012 05:33 AM

Golly, this is refreshing!!

Gee this is FUN!!

Well, somebody has to say it, so here goes:

What, exactly does this have to do with anything?

Why, precisely, does anyone find any of this amusing?

What, exactly, does anyone gain from posting tho childish, inane drivel?

Not just this post, but the vast preponderance of posts from you are nasty.. You are obviously not a happy person. Look for an outlet for whatever ails your soul elsewhere. You don’t bring out the best in others and don’t contribute anything positive, on balance.

Be kind, be positive, be constructive, or be quiet.

Grow up. At least try to camouflage your insecure, casual hatred and racism, jingoism and base meanness.

Maybe you could fake being kind, positive, constructive and decent until it becomes habit rather than trolling the Internet for the nastiest stuff you can find, then spreading it around like something you stepped in while walking down the alley.

Try it, you might like it.

Oh, and thanks for fouling the pool by continually posting this crap. It makes this a place fewer and fewer people want to visit. Why would you do that?

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you are ignorant of the fact that your constant stream of paranoia, hate, ignorance and bile is repugnant to the decent folk who want to exchange views on WOODWORKING.

Now you know.

I’m guessing you spew this bile in person and people are repulsed, and avoid you. So, you are lonely and take it to the Internet, where you think it passes for intelligent discourse. It does not. It is pathetic. Undoubtedly, you were raised better than this.

Go down to the park and yell at the pigeons if you want to be a mean, old pathetic cank. Leave the decent folks alone.

If you have something positive and constructive to add, please do so. Otherwise, quit crapping in the punch bowl!

“Have Fun!”

Indeed.

-- Dave, Oak Park, IL

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David Craig

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#5 posted 05-11-2012 12:29 PM

Joe, my response will not be aggressive as the former. I don’t believe you are a bitter, angry man. But there is another side to law enforcement that is willing to use excessive force in a situation. What follows is not something I read in the paper or online, but what happened to me personally -

About 20 years ago, I was pulled over in Okemos. A rather wealth community in Michigan, not far from the state capital. I had a broken headlight and figured I would get pulled over eventually, so I sat in the car waiting for my fixit ticket. I was a little confused when another police car pulled in alongside the first one and even more so when one officer was drawing his gun.

The two men approached and ordered me to get out of my car. Not knowing what was going on, or why these guys were so uptight, I slowly put both hands outside the car window so they could see I was unarmed and told them that I would not exit the vehicle until one of them informed me of what I did wrong. That option was not given to me, however, as one of them jerked the car door open, pulled me out by my shirt, threw me against the front of my car and began cuffing me. My Miranda rights were read but I still had no idea on why I was being arrested. I turned my head to inquire about the charges, one officer put his gun against my head and told me to turn back around or I would be dead. I was never more terrified before or since.

I turned around and was cuffed and I told the officer that I was not aware that a broken headlight was this big a deal. I was then informed that I committed two felonies in the Detroit area. Having not been there since I was 8, I couldn’t recollect committing such a crime. It was at this point, they decided to run my social security number and drivers license through the system. They discovered that they had the wrong David Craig. I was uncuffed without apology and was informed that they wouldn’t’ give me a ticket this time, but to get my headlight fixed. Nice of them to not ticket me after threatening my life. I had no priors, no tickets, no bad record of any kind. These men were prepared to do whatever was necessary to apprehend this other David Craig, including shooting an unarmed, innocent citizen.

We do not need more sheriffs that can kill a man and make flippant jokes to the media. What we need are more men of honor who are willing to use the gun in self defense but who understand that taking a life is a very serious thing. I want a Sheriff who would respond to such an event by saying “It is unfortunate that this man used force which required us to use force in defense. I wish it were otherwise.” Not as funny or popular but definitely more worthy of respect in my book.

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Woodbum

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#6 posted 05-11-2012 04:37 PM

Give it a rest—take it somewhere else. Go to a site that wants political and social issue discourse. Maybe some here want that but I don’t. I come here to read and talk woodworking. If I want that other silly s**t, I ‘ll go where i expect it to be.Just my opinion, and I could be wrong

-- Improvidus, Apto quod Victum-- Improvise, Adapt, Overcome

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Joe Lyddon

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#7 posted 05-11-2012 04:40 PM

DaveHuber:

First of all, the criminal fired the first shot… That is ALL that is needed for further action to be taken.

And… if he had been taken alive, etc. the Liberal Wackos would have turned it upside down, the guy might get OFF completely OR he would be tried, found guilty, placed on death row, and kept there for 30-40 years while he went through the APPEAL process costing the taxpayers close to 1 million dollars.

When, in reality, it was very obvious… he fired first, pretty much admitting guilt, and happened to die while the police were “protecting themselves”... True Justice without 30-40 years of BS!

David Craig:
They obviously broke the law, did not follow proper procedure, and the City should have been sued for a few million $$$... It’s a shame you didn’t take some kind of legal action… They obviously deserved it!
I’m sorry that horrifying experience happened to you…

I am not a violent man… probably the opposite… BUT, when I see a Black Dog who was seen doing horrible illegal things, is guilty as Hell, and people are trying to call it a nice White Dog because of his bad childhood, blah, blah, blah, it does something to me… Our System is SO SICK in places…
... and it’s like a breath of Fresh Air when things are handled properly… For a Change!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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oldnovice

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#8 posted 05-11-2012 04:45 PM

To be less wordy than both of the Daves, this is very CRASS!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#9 posted 05-11-2012 06:32 PM

The policy expressed by Sheriff Judd is morally reprehensible.
It is also blatantly illegal.

It is always a tragedy when someone dies a violent death.
At least if you are a true Christian.
And even for many of us that aren’t.

There should be no hesitation to use lethal force when necessary.
And no regret either.
But blood-lust celebration is shameful.

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor,
undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Since when is asking a question “going nuts”? This statement clearly reflects the prejudices of its author, and is not likely a reasonable characterization of the actual events.

And then more blood-lust celebration from the Sheriff and even the coroner.

Two men and a dog died violent deaths.
It is a relief that a killer was stopped.
And honor is deserved to those that did what needed to be done.
But it is a sad thing.
At least for true Christians.
And even for many of us that aren’t.

-- Greg D.

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helluvawreck

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#10 posted 05-11-2012 08:44 PM

I agree pretty much with most of what GregD said.

For whatever it is worth this apparently is what actually happened:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/judd.asp

Obviously, the man was guilty if this is true and the sherriff’s deputies had to shoot in self defense. It’s doubtful that 110 shots had to be fired with 68 shots hitting the outlaw. I will not judge them for that.

However, Joe, I must say that the tone of your post did not sit well with me either.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Joe Lyddon

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#11 posted 05-11-2012 09:59 PM


The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the
SWAT team, officers opened fire on him.

Now, let me understand this completely…

The police were fired upon! Shot AT! With a GUN!

What are the police supposed to do?

Give up and let him go FREE?!

I see “True Christians” are now entering the picture…

The Father of Christ laid down the Law on how true Murderers and Rapists should be punished.
He (God) said that they should be Publicly put to death.
Jesus said he didn’t come to change the law one iota, but to fulfill it.

Don’t ask me for the Chapter / Verse… I don’t remember… BUT, I know it to be true.

Also, this thread is NOT going into a Religious Debate and does NOT WANT to do so.

I am hereby requesting that the Religious debate STOPS right NOW with this post.

Please… abide by my request…

Thank you very much.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#12 posted 05-11-2012 10:06 PM

Joe and I had some private correspondence a few days ago. I think we pretty much agreed he’s nuts. I think he’s a good guy. Just nuts. Heck, could be worse.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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helluvawreck

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#13 posted 05-12-2012 12:02 AM

Human beings are such complicated creatures. We all come from different backgrounds and there are an infinite number of variables that occur in each of our lives that contribute to our make up and how we look at the world that we live in and interact with it and each other, not including the makeup of our own souls and minds, even our DNA if we want to get into scientific terms.

We have thousands and thousands of years of human suffering behind us.

Perhaps the greatest tragedy of all is that in spite of all that we have been thru as a species together we have never learned how to live together in a peaceful way. I suspect that we never will.

I have never seen our country so divided as it is today.

I have never met a dog that I did not like except for Hank. He was the dog from hell. In defense of Hank his back leg was shot off by a man with a shotgun. If I put myself in Hank’s place I probably would have taken an exception to that myself.

I had the priviledge of working on a horse farm. Horses are such noble creatures. If you will look into the eyes of a dog or a horse you will see that they want to please you. You can usually negotiate with a horse or a dog.

I have owned a number of cats. I have come to understand, however, that you don’t own a cat. It’s probably more like they own you. I believe that cats are great students of human nature and study us in order to see how to manipulate us. We might could learn something from cats if we could talk to them. I do love them them so, however.

Porpoises are wonderful creatures, too. I’ve never had the pleasure to swim with them but my children have.

I don’t know the why of it all or why the world is the way it is. But it does all seem very profound to me.

I’m not sure at all that it will end well. I suspect that it will not.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#14 posted 05-12-2012 12:19 AM

Very thoughtful post Charles. Up to about 8 months ago, I worked from home. For almost five years my social interactions were with my cats or watching the birds outside and the visits I would have with jockmike2. I was a little sheltered and didn’t really mind that a bit. It has been a bit of a trying process to be out there more and come face to face with so much blind hatred and anger. When you get to the root of most difficulties, they are self inflicted. Life presents its own trials, we don’t have to add to it.

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#15 posted 05-12-2012 01:23 AM

Katdaddy:
Sorry you are so far behind the Times…

Only the facts are reported… just the facts…

... did NOT warrant your attack…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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