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05-07-2012 01:14 AM

Hey all. New to the forums. I’ve been lurking for a month or so. I thought it was time to finally register and contribute something :-)

I just picked up this miter box and saw last week. I’m not sure what it is. I don’t see any markings on the miter box. The saw is a Disston. Any ideas?


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#1 posted 05-07-2012 01:45 AM

Looks a lot like my old Miller’s Falls saw. Do you have any more pictures?

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#2 posted 05-07-2012 02:25 AM

Looks like a Goodell-Pratt. I have one, too, and have posted pics here.

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#3 posted 05-07-2012 04:04 AM

I don’t have any more pictures but I can take some tomorrow. I think you nailed it, Smitty. It looks just like your Goodell-Pratt.

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#4 posted 05-07-2012 04:25 AM

It’s a quality box, for sure. My hobby now includes looking for the work holding pieces that slip into the angled channels on either end… :-)

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#5 posted 05-07-2012 12:05 PM

Are there supposed to be bearings in the posts for the saw to roll on?

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#6 posted 05-07-2012 01:03 PM

My box has the holes at the tops of each post, too, and I recall seeing something re: bearings. But I don’t have them, either. Not much point to have bearings ride the top of the backsaw, though… Either a poor design that didn’t keep them captive, or it’s turn of the 20th century vaporware, not sure.

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#7 posted 05-07-2012 09:46 PM

Ok good. I won’t worry about the bearings. I don’t suppose you have a picture of the work holding pieces? I picked this box up at a store that has at least 20 different miter boxes and a ton of parts kicking around. I might be able to find some if I know what I’m looking for.

I’m working on taking the box apart and cleaning it. I’m all for nice patina but this thing is just nasty.

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#8 posted 05-07-2012 10:01 PM

Don’t have pics, only read about them, but there are two, one for each end, and would have the angular bottoms to fit the tracks on your mitre. But for on this specific tool, they’ve got to be very curious (and useless-looking) things…

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#9 posted 05-07-2012 10:04 PM

Here’s an interesting site! Holder and bearings pictured!

http://home.comcast.net/~hillscp/MiterBox.html

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#10 posted 05-07-2012 10:28 PM

Nice find! Does yours have the bottom bearings? Looks like I’m missing top and bottom.

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#11 posted 05-07-2012 10:30 PM

I believe mine is bearingless…

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#12 posted 05-08-2012 01:36 PM

I’m having a hard time getting everything taken apart. Some of these old screws are really stubborn!

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#13 posted 05-08-2012 02:15 PM

I think anything 80+ years old can easily be forgiven for stubborness.

Mine’s not nasty enough to get a refurb, it’s used ‘as is.’ In other words, if there are screws stuck in place, I’m allowing them to remain so. :-)

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#14 posted 05-09-2012 12:58 PM

I don’t blame you. I like to leave most tools original but this was just tool rusty and dirty to leave alone.

Here’s an interesting one. He has a few nice shots of the work holder.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Goodel-Pratt-Miter-Box-Frame-no-saw-/230779809763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb8c6fe3#ht_500wt_972

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#15 posted 07-01-2012 04:05 AM

I had the same experience recently when I picked up a miter box that looks like yours for $7.00 at a garage sale. Pictures are here the the perusing. Couldn’t find any markings until I cleaned the saw support rods. They’re both marked Goodell Manufacturing, Co. with a patent date of 1904.

Like Smitty, mine didn’t come with any of the work-holding accessories, so my new hobby is trying to track down replacements or fashion my own.

Smitty, have you had any luck finding those angled work-holding accessories? Barring that, I’m thinking of ways to create my own. A 1/2” x 1/2” steel bar fits perfectly in the angled channel.

JHut,
What is the depth of your saw’s plate (as measured from the base of the spine to the tip of the teeth)? It wouldn’t be 5” by chance would it? That seems to be the right size for my miter box based on the measurement I took of the saw support rods. Mine didn’t come with a saw.

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