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05-03-2012 04:43 PM

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Looking to get my first brace and drill…what do you guys think of this?
$10 is pocket change. I figure if it sucks or works well, its not much, But if someone can look at this real quick and say “That’s junk” or tell if it’s missing something…might save me $10.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.


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#1 posted 05-03-2012 05:21 PM

Millers Falls made some good tools, and $10 for the 2 is not bad. I would say yes. Just make sure all the parts are in the jaws and they spin.

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#2 posted 05-03-2012 05:31 PM

My primary deciding factor these days is the price of gas – if you don’t have to spend $20 on fuel to get them, I’d go get them. Then be on the lookout for old auger bits at yard sales and such. The liitle red one will take twist bits just fine.

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#3 posted 05-03-2012 05:32 PM

I have a couple egg beaters. One is set up permanent with a counter sink.

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#4 posted 05-03-2012 05:48 PM

Looks Similar to the Ones I Have, Like Don Said ‘if the parts are there & they work’ the rest is up to you.

Good luck on the long slope of collecting & Using Vintage tools

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#5 posted 05-03-2012 06:00 PM

for the price of two cups of joe at starbucks, go for it, you can always sell them again & get your money back on CL or ebay – check out this article http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/tune-up-a-hand-drill-in-30-minutes

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#6 posted 05-03-2012 06:25 PM

I have that brace. It is a lifetime tool.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#7 posted 05-03-2012 06:42 PM

Not sure about the hand drill, but I would pay $10 for the brace alone. I did an 8 part blog series on restoring and using hand braces that you might be interested in checking out. Here's the link to part 1.

-- Andy -- "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." (Michelangelo)

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#8 posted 05-09-2012 01:27 PM

I stopped by the guy’s place this morning and checked out the drill and brace. Both were in very good shape, just need some minor TLC. I snagged them, and the guy had a few tools left over for me to look at. I passed over the glass cutter and fence repair tool and spotted a C-clamp, slightly different from any I own. He told me if I could find a use for it to just take it, so I did. I’ll try to post a picture tonight. It looks like a normal square-cornered C-clamp, with wider ends for more clamping pressure, about 4” capacity, except it has a elongated tab on the non-adjustable end, with a hole with a bolt through it. It looks like it is intended to be mounted to something. Any ideas?

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#9 posted 05-09-2012 01:37 PM

Welding table?

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#10 posted 05-09-2012 01:45 PM

Hmmm…maybe! Perhaps the bolt might even be intended for a ground clamp? However the entire clamp is painted (some peeling), and does not appear to have any evidence of being used for welding. I weld from time to time, but this will most likely be put to use for something wood-related.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#11 posted 05-10-2012 12:52 PM

I got home and got started on the clean-up of the brace. It has a ways to go still, but below are pictures as far as I was able to get. After getting a lot of rust and grime off, I was able to determine that this is a Millers Falls No. 62 brace. Did some poking around and once I get the wood bits cleaned up and determine the type, I can narrow the age down a bit more, but based on the model, ball bearings, it looks to be early 1900’s. Everything is in great working condition. All in all, I think it was a good $10 spent.

And here is the clamp that I would like more information on. Not sure it is meant to be bolted to a bench, or if the clamp is meant to be clamped to a fixed beam, and the bolt used to hang something.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#12 posted 05-10-2012 12:55 PM

P.S. I took the three screws out from under the cap, and it won’t budge. I’m thinking this is the type of brace with the cap that screws on to the top. It’s stuck. Any advice on removing it for refinishing?

P.S.S. Thanks Brit, I’ve been using your blog as a how-to!

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#13 posted 05-10-2012 03:41 PM

I can’t tell you whether the head is screwed on or not, but I would send Craftsman on the Lake a PM as he said he has the same brace, so might be able to help. You could try tapping it on the underside of the head over a table to see if it loosens. Sometime years of dirt and grease can form a pretty tight seal.

I’m pretty certain that the brace you have is a Millers Falls Barber brace Series 32. There were three braces in the 32 series, an 8”, 10” and 12”. The 10” sweep brace was called the #322. I think yours dates from around 1939 as illustrated in the MF 1939 catalogue shown below.

They were making the 32 series earlier than that, but there were subtle cahnges in the design and in particular the jaws. The following illustrates what they looked like in the 1904 catalogue.

Hope that helps.

-- Andy -- "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." (Michelangelo)

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#14 posted 05-10-2012 03:54 PM

It says “Mo. 62” on the shaft. The jaws match these :

Link

http://oldtoolheaven.com/brace/brace1.htm

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#15 posted 05-10-2012 04:16 PM

Well that makes it easier. That model is listed in the 1904 catalogue, but not in the 1939 catalogue. Here is the entry.

and this is what it says about their line of Barber Improved braces:

-- Andy -- "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." (Michelangelo)

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