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fumehappy

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801 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: pre-lateral no 4 stanley

HI again!
So from the same flea market as my other post on the milled two-piece knob, I found this guy here:


Thanks!

While the frog details point to a type 4, the base doesn’t have the expected frog receiver shape. Sadly the side has been damaged. Not sure how i’m going to fix that yet.
Any ideas on the maker?


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Bill White

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#1 posted 801 days ago

Looks like a Sargent I’m working on today. Any numbers on the base of the frog? My customer may want to buy the frog (or complete plane for that matter).
Bill

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#2 posted 801 days ago

Is there text inside the brass depth adjuster? Looks like there may be some in the photo.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#3 posted 801 days ago

Ditto what Brandon said.

There definitely appears to be text inside the adjusting knob. Clean that up some, and you should be able to learn something.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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CharlieM1958

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#4 posted 801 days ago

Also, why do you say type 4? What about type 3? The type 3 had a unique frog design.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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fumehappy

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#5 posted 801 days ago

It says baileys patent and has the 1858 and 1867 dates.
Thanks!

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Don W

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#6 posted 801 days ago

I’d say its a bailey. I have a good base and have been looking for the frog.

Here is the chart you want.

I agree with the type 4

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fumehappy

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#7 posted 801 days ago

Bill,
No markings on the body or the frog that I can see. I even pulled the handle off, but nothing underneath. Do you have a pic of the one you are working on? I thought stanley had the rights to the bailey patent, so i’m confused why this nut would be on a sargent plane. Unless of course, someone put a stanley frog on a sargent plane….
Thanks!

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sikrap

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#8 posted 801 days ago

I agree with Don. I’m pretty sure that’s an old Bailey. Too bad that the side is busted. You could sell the frog to Don and then sell the knob/tote.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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fumehappy

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#9 posted 801 days ago

Just to clarify when you say a bailey you mean a stanley bailey? Thanks!

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#10 posted 801 days ago

Stanley-bailey is correct.

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#11 posted 800 days ago

here is my base

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