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Michigander

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05-01-2012 02:45 PM

Hi Gang, I am planning to build a TV console that is about 60” long x 26” tall with 3 compartments. I am going to use a Krag jig and glue to assemble the faceframe. As the top will have a secondary frame on the plywood box, I can Kraig screw the faceframe to that from the top side as that will be covered by the solid cherry top. Same thing with the bottom. So how do you suggest I attach the faceframe to the console box sides and dividers. Construction is 3/4” cherry plywood for the box and solid cherry faceframe which is about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4” wide. I don’t want to use the Kraig jig to attach to the dividers as the screw slots will be visable. Is glue sufficient? I don’t have a biscuit joiner. Am I going to compromise the construction if I just use glue?
Thanks for your help.
John


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#1 posted 05-01-2012 03:05 PM

I usually just glue and clamp the faceframe to the carcass – maybe using a brad if needed. Never had a failure.

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#2 posted 05-01-2012 03:06 PM

I use glue and a half dozen 22 gauge brads to keep the face frame aligned.

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#3 posted 05-01-2012 03:19 PM

As long as you clamp the joint to achieve a good bond, glue alone is sufficient.

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#4 posted 05-01-2012 03:41 PM

Dowels couldn’t hurt. The 22 gauge brads are a good idea as well.

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#5 posted 05-01-2012 03:50 PM

Wow that was fast! Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it!
John

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#6 posted 05-01-2012 04:03 PM

I mortise & tenon face frames glued to the boxes. We’ve been doing that more years than I can remember and never had a failure that I know of. When two cabinets join together we inset the box 1/4” on the inside of the face frames.

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#7 posted 05-01-2012 05:18 PM

Today’s glues are more than sufficient to hold the faceframe to the cabinet. If you use any nails you’ll have to fill the holes and as the cherry darkens with age, whatever you used for fill will become more visible. Just glue and clamp will work. Biscuits or dowels will work but I have never found them necessary for face frames.

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#8 posted 05-01-2012 06:21 PM

The headless pins can’t hurt, at least for alignment while you clamp.

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#9 posted 05-01-2012 07:44 PM

Norm Abram was a big fan of biscuits (in everything) for face frames. You can use a slot bit on a router table to route a grove in the front of the cabinet panels. Then add biscuits to the face frame and you glue and clamp together.

-jeremy

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#10 posted 05-02-2012 03:12 PM

Thanks again for the input, I’ll probably tack with 22 gage brads where the frame will be covered by trim and the rest just clamped.
Thanks again.
John

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