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389 days ago |
Topic tags/keywords: question tip walnut quarter sawn sycamore hope chest frame and panel rail and stile design help I have been working on a design for a hope chest for my niece as a graduation gift. I am planning to use rail and stile/frame and panel construction using walnut for the frames and quarter sawn sycamore for the flat panels. I plan a natural finish. I guess my concern is the top. I have been planning a full thickness frame and panel and attempting sliding dovetails for the ends. My wife is not thrilled with the contrasting wood in the top. I am slightly concerned with the movement of the two small cross-grain pieces in the middle. Please feel free to share your honest thoughts and concerns. -- Rick |
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#1 posted 389 days ago |
Others here could advise you best. There are concerns with wood movment, “Pin the joints cant hurt. Your choice for the Top would not be my first choice, Go with the wifes advice I love the case design though. I an making 7 chests for all the girls in our family. Hopefuly before Christmas. |
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#2 posted 389 days ago |
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sandhill. Enjoy your time crafting the chests for the girls in your family. -- Rick |
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#3 posted 389 days ago |
I like the design, but I, too, would go with a solid walnut top. -- Wood-Mizer LT15 |
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#4 posted 389 days ago |
Hey Rick, If you did go with this design it would be better to make the center rail go all the way through and use only two panels. Another idea would be to reduce the panels on the front to three and make the top the same. Everthing lines up. Yea, That would be my choice. Consider one panel on the sides. I think about moderation and less is more. Consider quarter sawn sycamore panels on the front, maybe the sides only. Go with all walnut on the top. Also, consider if planning a paneled top: mitered corners with a contrasting maple spline (cut across grain). Nice strong joint, no end grain, custom look and (I think) easier to do than a sliding dove tail. The bottom arch looks nice on paper but if you think about it, really is a bad design and causes all kinds of problems inside. You could get the same WOW factor in half the time by making the bottom rail straight and only arching the top rail as drawn; same with the sides. That way, you can dado the bottom into the side panels properly. One more thing – I like to make a dovetailed sliding drawer and set it on 1×1 cleats inside at the top for all the little collectible items. You can add dividers or handles too. Don’t forget lid closers – that lid is gonna be heavy. Hope you don’t mind my whirlwind of ideas! Very curious to see what you come up with. Be sure to post pictures of it when you’re done! -- mark |
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#5 posted 389 days ago |
Rick, +1 vote for the solid Walnut (albeit a glued up panel) top. Should make a handsome Chest. Len -- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana. |
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#6 posted 388 days ago |
Thanks for your input. This is why I posted before building it. I will plan on a solid top. Will make sure to post pics when done. I haven’t worked with walnut in 30 years and will be my first with quarter sawn sycamore. (I usually work with red oak) Mark – I shared the same thought about the bottom arch and there not being enough room to dado the bottom panel. I appreciate the time you put into a detail response. Thanks again for all your responses. -- Rick |
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#7 posted 359 days ago |
Here’s a pic of the finished project. Thanks for your input. I posted as a project if you want to see more. Here’s the link: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/66724 -- Rick |
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#8 posted 359 days ago |
very very nice, got in on the question late, but agree the solid top is outstanding.. I also make hope chests for the girls in my family.. when ever one hits 16 they get a chest.. 4 down and 5 more to go, got a couple years before the next one is due.. again.. very nice love the look, the bow on the top rail is fantastic.. keep up the great work. she should be very proud and pleased.. I have never worked with Sycamore, how was it and would you use it again? Steve -- Papa@papaswoodworking.com |
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#9 posted 359 days ago |
Looks really nice Rick ! |
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#10 posted 350 days ago |
Steve, thanks for your compliments. This was the first time I worked with sycamore. I found it very easy to work, though it did occasionally have a tear out on surface planing if I tried to take too big a bite. I had no issues with the shaper causing tear outs and it sanded very easy with drum and ROS. I initially wanted to use all sapwood but once I glued the panels together, decided to keep the darker heartwood as it seemed to add to the color. I did NOT like it stained at all and in fact it really didn’t want to take any of the ZAR stains I had on hand. If you have any ideas on what to build the boys in the family, let me know… I have 2 years to decide. Cabmaker… thanks for the compliment. -- Rick |
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#11 posted 221 days ago |
Any chance of getting the Sketch-Up file? I would like to tackle this project for my 2 year old little girl… -- freddyaudiophile, Fredericton, NB, Canada |
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#12 posted 220 days ago |
The hope chest looks great, but why did you use the panel system on the back? I thought the back would be up against the foot of the bed or a wall. Please don’t take this as critism. I’m just curious. |
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#13 posted 213 days ago |
Mr. Ron, thanks for the complement and the question. Don’t know if its right or wrong but I finish all four sides for a couple reasons… -- Rick |
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#14 posted 213 days ago |
Well Done, Indeed. -- Lead By Example; Make a Difference |
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