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Forum topic by bandit571 posted 04-26-2012 05:54 PM 933 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bandit571

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04-26-2012 05:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane refurbishing

Working on a Union #3c plane. It has a cracked tote i would like to either repair, or replace. problem? Can’t get the ##@# bolt to even budge. Should i try to soak it loose? Being an old Union plane, nothing stanley made will fit.

If the tote bolt is like the front knob bolt, it will be a problem to replace. The “bolt” up front is a one piece BOLT, with a few threads at one end, and a weird shaped head at the other.

Would like to at least get the tote off, so I can see what it will take to repair it.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use


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#1 posted 04-26-2012 05:56 PM

Have you tried the “hitting the screw driver with a hammer while twisting” trick?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#2 posted 04-26-2012 05:59 PM

Yep. The slot is getting a bit buggered up, so i stopped. I did take a few shavings, and the tote did move a bit, just enough for the crack to widen up a bit. These “Union-style” bolts are strange.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#3 posted 04-26-2012 05:59 PM

For things like that I use PB Blaster and a manual impact driver.
Mostly it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#4 posted 04-26-2012 06:09 PM

when I get one that stubborn, I set it aside and soak it for a few days. Hopefully you can get enough stuff past the head to get it where it needs to be.

The only other option I can think of is to sacrifice the tote.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#5 posted 04-26-2012 06:15 PM

ive also used a cresent wrench on the handle of the screw driver for more torque. Maybe you could grind down the slot a little for a better bite.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#6 posted 04-27-2012 02:56 PM

used some “Citrius Mold Cleaner ” from work to give things a good soaking. Got out a BIG bladed screwdriver, to get rid of the slop in the slot. Worked things back and forth for awhile. Finally the bolt began to turn. It came off the base before the bolt came out of the tote parts. Rust bunny had a field day down inside that tote. This bolt is a single piece , short threaded, mangled, thing with a bevel head ( top AND bottom of the bolt head) and a lot of rusty crud in the middle. Chucked it up in the drill, grabbed some sandpaper and gave it a spin. Wasn’t in all that tight ( didn’t want to hurt what threads were left), so the bolt went flying a few times. got pretty good at catching it, though.

So, right now, the tote is drying out. I try the Don/ Dan tricks to glue it back together. If it don’t work, hey, i can always make a new one…..


I’ll post some pictures later, had to work last night at my “Day Job”. Got the three day weekend off though….. Time to go pick up a certain old #5, or is it a #5-1/4? IF I can swing a deal, there was a BIG spokeshave like scraper plane sitting there as well…....DIBS????

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#7 posted 04-27-2012 03:10 PM

+1 for chrisstef’s method.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#8 posted 04-27-2012 03:24 PM

I’ve used SeaFoam penetrant for this. I’ve also given up and cut a deep/wide slot with a Dremel cutting disc, then just manned it out with an impact drill. What can I say, I like Sledgehammers and Sawzalls:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#9 posted 04-27-2012 07:10 PM

Al, sledgehammers and sawzalls … youre hired! “Boys we got a new demo guy comin in!”

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#10 posted 04-29-2012 04:43 AM

Got the tote glued back together:

Got it back on

and taken for a spin

I guess I won’t have to make a new tote afterall…...

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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