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juniorjock

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04-21-2012 01:58 AM

Topic tags/keywords: teachers humor

Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50×30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET’S SEE….

That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher’s salary (nationwide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.


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Jimbo4

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#1 posted 04-21-2012 02:03 AM

I better get smart and go get my teachers license – quick before somebody catches on!

-- *Arachnoleptic Fit*: The frantic dance performed just after you've accidently walked through a spider web.

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Craftsman on the lake

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#2 posted 04-21-2012 02:33 AM

I taught science and computers in a jr. high school for 30 years before I retired in 2005. I was up there on the pay scale and had a masters degree to boot. My 25-27 year old children, nephews, and nieces all have started jobs in the past two years with 4 year college degrees. All have starting salaries more than what I was making the last year before I retired. I had some good years teaching but boy, was I in the wrong profession. Always wary of the system, parents, and sometimes kids. Not much respect for your profession. No respect for the union that negotiates your being able to leave and go home at the end of the day. I’ve told my daughters and nephews and nieces, teach if you have a burning desire to and have to fill that desire, but otherwise find a job that you can feel fulfilled and do more than live paycheck to paycheck on. None have become teachers.
Next week my Daughter is being flown and put up in a motel in San Francisco from NY for a job interview. They pay for everything drive her around, and give her a meal voucher. As a teacher You have to fight for gas mileage reimbursement to a conference 30 miles away.
Don’t even get me going about ‘No Child Left Behind’.

When someone says, Carpenters overcharge and try to cheat you, Lawyers are all liars, Police are corrupt, Business people are all greedy… I try to remember what I’ve heard about teachers and realize that you’ve got to live in someones shoes to really know. Beyond that, what you think is just a lot of bull.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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Pimzedd

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#3 posted 04-23-2012 12:26 AM

Taught for 34 years, left the classroom in 2004. Got paid for nine months. Only got paid for 175 days. Took off week of July 4th in the summer and one of the two weeks at Christmas that the kids were off. Not sure how may days I worked but it was more that 175. Guess I had it backwards!

Loved it after the first year. Miss having “My Kids”. Thankfully I still keep up with several and they turned out great.

One of my daughters just got back from a trip around the world on company expense. I am sure she is glad she didn’t go into teaching. Another did and loves it.

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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Gabe C.

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#4 posted 04-23-2012 12:59 AM

I have a couple friends who are teachers, and they are the most fulfilled people I know, career-wise, because they absolutely love what they do. For them it is not about the money. It couldn’t be, as they barely get paid anything. I really feel that they should be paid appropriately for the work they do concerning the future of this country. Because that’s what THEY have quite a bit of influence in, right? The future of America, through it’s younger generations, who will soon be the current workforce. But maybe I’m just a crazy person…

-- If I could just get this whole "Time/Money" problem figured out...

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madts

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#5 posted 04-23-2012 01:13 AM

Teaching is the future for all our kids. More power to all teachers.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#6 posted 04-23-2012 01:45 AM

I think that one reason teacher pay is low is that there is an abundance of them. Like any supply and demand situation, why would schools pay more than they need to?

Yes, teachers (good ones, anyway) are a major factor in our kids future, but until we are able to pay the good ones what they’re worth, the situation isn’t going to change.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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Pdub

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#7 posted 04-23-2012 01:53 PM

I think my wife has been holding out on me. She’s a teacher, but she never told me she made $100,000 a year. I’m gonna have to ask her about that this evening! Now let’s see. What new tablesaw do I want? LOL

-- Paul, North Dakota, USAF Ret.

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#8 posted 04-24-2012 12:23 PM

I was prepared to get angry when I started reading this post, dropped my shoulders and relaxed as I caught on (good faux troll), then thought about what my daughter’s teachers have done for her.
Nearing the end of Grade 4 (she is 9), she reads and writes up a storm, is almost fluent in French, has got all simple arithmetic down pat (waking up to the wonder of fractions and decimals at the moment), can devise a science experiment and explain the results, the list goes on and on.
Everyday she comes home bigger and smarter and stronger while I tinker away with sawdust at work.
Here comes a young dynamo thanks to these people. I regret that I didn’t become one myself.
gene

-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.

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patcollins

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#9 posted 04-25-2012 11:30 PM

Don’t mean to offend anyone that truely wanted to be a teacher but someone I know said this and I agree wholehartedly

In the end college is like life.. You take a hard major and put in the work it will pay HUGE dividends.. If you choose the easy major, and partake in thirsty Thursday, and party all week-end, then you’ll pay for that choice more than likely for the rest of your life.

There are more “teachers” than you can shake a stick at, it was where alot of people that dropped out of other majors went to. Most of the education majors I knew fit into that group.

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Clint Searl

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#10 posted 04-26-2012 12:09 AM

In the PA school district where I am, the average teacher pay is $85,000 plus full medical insurance plus a fat retirement.

If teachers are so great, then why are the kids graduating so dumb?

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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Craftsman on the lake

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#11 posted 04-26-2012 12:22 AM

In my state to be a teacher:
5 years of college plus one year of student teaching. No pay. University here is about $20k/yr.
A fairly strict test to be certified.
After you begin you have to take the equivalent of two college courses each 5 years plus document a lot of hours of inservice work.
Starting salary at age 23: $32,000
Ending salary at age 62: $56,000
Retirement: About $2,400/month 45% medical payed by state. No dental and Spouse exempt.
NCLB (no child left behind) Don’t even get me going.

I told my kids to do something else. They have more than doubled my starting salary right out of the gate. I taught for 30 yrs.
So, what’s wrong with this picture?

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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eddie

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#12 posted 04-26-2012 12:29 AM

fist read this i started to get mad and just pass it up didnt want to waste my time finnaly caught on.they earn every penny they get .i have 5 kids that went thur the public school system ,people need to realize that they are there to teach not raise kids thats our job .

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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Martyroc

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#13 posted 04-26-2012 12:36 AM

Great post, I have a few teacher friends that would love this, thanks for sharing.

-- Martin ....always count the number of fingers you have before, and after using the saw.

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David Craig

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#14 posted 04-26-2012 01:16 AM

In regards to the comment “If teachers are so great, then why are the kids graduating so dumb?” – Much of this has to do with the new beliefs that if a child doesn’t learn it doesn’t reflect on the capabilities of the child but the ability of the teacher to teach. When I went to school, it was understood that an A student was one that answered all questions correctly, studied frequently, and was significantly above average in intelligence. I was a B student. I was somewhat better than average but not in line with the geniuses. This was accepted.

When I attended college years later, my work effort was better, but I still should have been a “B” student. I am smarter than average, not in line with the geniuses. I graduated Summa Cum Laude. I was not entirely proud of my golden cords. They should have been white or silver. Why was I not proud? Because 1/3 of my graduating class were also high honor graduates. I took courses in IT and my classes were of the technical sort. But I found myself in advanced database classes sitting next to students who could not tell me what a record or a file was. They had to take the same prerequisites as I and they passed those classes with B scores or better without even understanding the basic concepts that the class was given to teach.

How did this happen? The quality of the teaching materials (books, simulations, software) were greater, the teachers were no worse than I had in high school (many a little better) and the quality of the education was improved, but the grading had changed. It is not profitable to have a college in which kids fail and it is politically dangerous to allow kids to fail in elementary – high school years. Because the responsibility for learning is not on the child but on the teacher. If a student does not do well, it isn’t because of their comprehension, their abilities, their capabilities of understanding, nor the amount of work they invest in their studies. It is blamed on the teaching staff.

Education is still a wonderful thing and one can learn if they apply themselves. The material is there, the quality is there. I do not, however, put much stock in grades anymore. Unfortunately, the hiring community is starting to feel the same way. Eventually, that piece of paper will not represent the years of hard work it is supposed to.

I spoke to a school counselor about my oldest son. He has Aspergers Syndrome and finds some classes more difficult than most. I questioned the “As” he got on his papers. He told me it was important for a child to not get discouraged and so they put that in consideration. I told him that maybe he should spend more time helping students feel better about getting a “C.” That is supposed to be average right?

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#15 posted 04-26-2012 09:12 PM

Clint, do the teachers in PA still strike every year?

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