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Brohymn62

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04-13-2012 06:16 PM

As much as I would like to spend a huge chunk of money at lee valley on some new planes… I can’t… any suggestions on some common planes to have handy at a good price?

-- Chris G. ; Los Angeles, CA


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Dennisgrosen

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#1 posted 04-13-2012 06:33 PM

if you have to follow the advice to get the best tools as possiple
you can either spend a fortune or take the slippery slope of buying used tools
and then restore/refurb them yourself

for the tools in the mittlerange price I can´t advice you other than chec out some of the rewiews
here and on the net you can be lucky and find new good tools in stores

for my self I have gone down the slippery slope and restore tools since I´m on a very tight budget
deffently not the fastest or easyest way of doing it …. but its fun to change knowledge/swett/tears
and sometimes blood too for the money I can use in other places :-)

to restore/refurb tools is a skill that takes time to get and if you don´t have that
or want to use the time to do it ... well that´s up to you …. woodworking has to be fun :-)

take care and good luck with the hunt

Dennis

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RGtools

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#2 posted 04-13-2012 06:41 PM

It really depends on your budget. But I would look for a vintage Stanley #5 in good condition (be choosey Stanley made millions of the things) and grab an extra blade for it through LV. Grind a heavy camber on one blade and keep the other straight, that will cover your Rouging and Jointing tasks. That can be your first. after that I suggest getting a jointer and a smoother (Stanley 7 and 4). Because flattening the sole of a plane is such a headache I would save my pennies and buy new on those….Woodriver also makes a good plane despite some reviews and may be in your budget.

Don’t grab Groz…they are horibble tools that cost more tha vintage and take more time to tune up.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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Brohymn62

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#3 posted 04-13-2012 06:49 PM

I just came across someone on CL that is selling a lot of planes with the following for about $250… which I might be able to get away with…

Vintage Stanley Router Plane
Vintage Stanley #5
Vintage Stanley #4
Vintage Stanley Block Plane
Miller Falls #140B (Stanley #5)
Miller Falls Adjustable mouth Block Plane
Sargent Dado / Rabbet Plane, with fence & depth stop

They appear clean and in good condition.. I haven’t seen them to check for flatness and any other problems. Good deal?

-- Chris G. ; Los Angeles, CA

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ShaneA

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#4 posted 04-13-2012 07:00 PM

Tough to say with pictures. Doesnt sound like a steal. There are are LJs who sell planes. I know Don W and thedude50 often have some. Good luck.

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Loren

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#5 posted 04-13-2012 07:23 PM

The only ones which are worth anywhere near collector
prices are the Sargent Dado / Rabbet Plane and
the Vintage Stanley Router Plane.

Some of the Router planes sell for $50-$80. I dunno
about Sagent rabbet planes.

The rest of these:
Vintage Stanley #5
Vintage Stanley #4
Vintage Stanley Block Plane
Miller Falls #140B (Stanley #5)
Miller Falls Adjustable mouth Block Plane

Are worth perhaps $20 each, average in the lot so $100
would be a fair price to pay. The other 2 planes might
be worth another $100 but I doubt it.

$150 would be a decent deal for you to buy the lot
with the variable that would take that price northward
being the router plane.

I’m assuming the planes are complete and don’t need work
to make them usable.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Sirgreggins

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#6 posted 04-13-2012 08:32 PM

what about buying the newer $50 range hand planes and lapping them and tuning them. I guess other than the blade i dont see how a block plane can be over $100. I’m a newbie too so i’d love to know as well.

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bandit571

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#7 posted 04-13-2012 09:14 PM

huge chunk of cash???

$8 ( talk the fella down from $10)Stanley handyman #4 ( before rehab)

and after a clean-up, tune-up, and a sharpening. This came from a “Thrift Store” that resells other people’s “JUNK”

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Don W

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#8 posted 04-13-2012 10:28 PM

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sikrap

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#9 posted 04-13-2012 11:37 PM

You can buy a #5 and a #4 for no more than $100 combined. A good #7 will cost you $75-$100 and these prices are for tools that are flat, sharp and ready to work when you get them. I buy/sell woodworking tools. If you don’t find anything at DonW’s site, PM me and we can talk.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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ShipWreck

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#10 posted 04-14-2012 03:32 PM

Hello Brohymn62

I would recommend that you keeps things simple to start out with. You can do almost anything with a #5 and a block plane. If you want to go with new, I highly recommend the WoodRiver #5 bench plane. It wont set you back alot of money, and it is very well made. I am a fan of LV and LN tools but they do cost alot for someone who wants to get started with hand planes. Take your time (and have fun) learning all the little nuances that come with working and maintaining a hand plane. You can go the refurbishing route also, but you have to be prepared to fix all the previous owners screwups. Alot of people will buys planes to refurbish from Ebay/Craigslist and turn around and resell them after they realize how badly they screwed them up. I’m not knocking Ebay/Craigslist…..but it is something to be prepared for if you go the refurbished route.

Using the #5 plane over time…... will give you a better sense of what you want to add later on. Most people will add a jointer and a smoother. There is no need to have 4-5 bench planes to start out with. There are master woodworkers out there who have a huge collection of bench planes, and only use 3 of them for all thier work.

Here is a link to the WoodRiver #5

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2021170/29726/WoodRiver-5-Bench-Hand-Plane-V3.aspx

Here is a link to a decent block plane. It can be had cheaper at other outlets though.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2021287/26178/Stanley-SW-No-6012-Low-Angle-Block-Plane.aspx

You might want a decent shoulder plane also. I would go with a 3/4” for now….. It’s the best sized general user. I would get a combination shoulder plane that breaks down into a bull nose.

What ever you decide…... Have fun. :)

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