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860 days ago

With all the NATIONAL media exposure and statements made by members of Congress, The President, “Reverends” Sharpton and Jackson expressing ”OUTRAGE” in the Zimmerman/Martin case.

Where is that same “outrage” over this incident?

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David Craig

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#1 posted 860 days ago

Kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The case you are citing is a crime, the criminal was apprehended and justice is being served. While it is indeed tragic, not sure what there would be to protest since they are not letting the criminal go free. The Zimmerman/Martin case questions what limits of force should be applied in self defense and the question of whether the use of lethal force was criminal or justified. Since Martin was unarmed, it is questionable on whether shooting was required.

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#2 posted 860 days ago

Had one of these deceased taken action as did Mr. Zimmerman, they may very well be alive today.

I will take my chances with a jury f 12 as opposed to 6 pallbearers.

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#3 posted 860 days ago

And had Mr. Zimmerman taken the action of the deceased, there would be one person charged with assault and there would be no national outrage questioning the capabilities of gun owners. Which in turn would not put the NRA under fire and would make it easier for individuals like the deceased to have a gun in their house in case they needed it. That is where it becomes problematic.

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#4 posted 860 days ago

I doesn’t matter if it is a crime or not, that isn’t what this is about. Once opon a time, there was a drunk who led the LAPD on a chase for thirty minutes, endangering lives all over the place. When the police finally cornered him, he jumped out and tried to fight four cops. Most cops faced with this alone, would have just shot him. Four of them tried to arrest him, instead of killing him, and yes they got a little rough at the end, and kicked him a few extra times. Who can really blame them? Don’t get me wrong, I hate cops and it pains me to defend them, but this idiot deserved to get his ass kicked, and then shot. I think most people would agree that he was asking for it. Until you say he was a black man named Rodney. Then all we saw on the news was the last few seconds of the video. Four mean white cops kicking a poor defenseless man that was laying on the ground. And all these same activists crying about racial profiling. No one even mentioned the half hour high speed chase, or the fact that he came out of the car swinging. They only did it because they were racist. When the court didn’t hang all the cops, they burned their own neighborhoods. It doesn’t matter what the truth really is, if Zimmerman isn’t crucified, there will be another riot.

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#5 posted 860 days ago

Actually, it does matter what the truth is. If memory serves, the jurors saw the whole tape and acquitted the officers. The last few minutes of the video being shown nationally you can blame on the media. As far as what another deserves, I believe that is based on our judicial system, not our arresting officers. Which is why the police are held under high accountability to prevent poor execution of justice. Police officers do risk their lives which is why they should be commended.

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#6 posted 860 days ago

RandyM68:

I remember that case…That guys name was Rodney King, and he deserved everything he got from the police officers….that was about 12-15 yeas ago, and I was living in Memphis, Tn. at the time…..the blacks there almost started a riot over the incident, but it never happened as I recall…..the guy was an idiot, and a loose cannon…..race had nothing to do with it…..they just tried to make it look like there was…...some people like to blow things out of context…..

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RandyM68

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#7 posted 860 days ago

No one even knows the truth yet, and they are already threatening to riot. When they let the cops off because they weren’t guilty, that is when they burned LA again. Then the federal government tried to get them on civil rights violations, which is also being threated against Zimmerman by our president. A couple of weeks ago, here in Houston, a bunch of innocent teenagers were having a gang fight across the street from the high school. The cops show up and detain them all. They have video of the cops searchig them and taking their weapons away. They have three or four white kids, two or three Mexicans, and seven black kids. Quannell X, or local Al Sharpton wanna be, and Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, have been leading protests to end racial profiling. WTF? These kids were caught in the act, in front of hundreds of witnesses, just because some of them were black?

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RockyTopScott

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#8 posted 860 days ago

Having a gun in your home when you are dead is not very effective, as best I can tell.

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RockyTopScott

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#9 posted 860 days ago

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc….the race card is their product..it is what fuels their existence…they will fan those flames as along as it allows them to stay in the spotlight.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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David Craig

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#10 posted 860 days ago

“Having a gun in your home when you are dead is not very effective, as best I can tell.”

Thank you for that RTS. Of course my logical response would be “It is usually cloudy when it rains.”

And just as that comment has absolutely nothing to do with your point. Your comment had absolutely nothing to do with mine.

Just clarifying.

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#11 posted 860 days ago

I disagree David, you said “and would make it easier for individuals like the deceased to have a gun in their house in case they needed it.:

When I am dead I will care less how “easy” it is to have a gun in my home.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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David Craig

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#12 posted 860 days ago

Similar would be a better word. I meant like as in “similar.” You took like as in “for example.” English is fun.

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vernonator

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#13 posted 860 days ago

I don’t know if Zimmerman was justified in his shooting of Treyvon or not I was not there . However the fact of the matter is the comments by the usual suspects, Obama, Sharpton, Jackson (how sad a statement is it that our POTUS can be lumped in with a bunch of racist glory hounds) have turned it into a socially charged hornets nest.

No matter what the outcome of the charges now filed against Mr. Zimmerman, justice will never truly be done. If he WAS justified and Zimmerman goes free, the glory hound race baiters will decry the injustice and riot and destroy their own neighborhoods. If it was not and he is sent to prison, there will always be the linger question – did he get a fair trail, or was the jury hopelessly tainted by all the idiots (see list above).

It has turned into a political mess and the POTUS sticking his big nose into it has done nothing but make it worse.

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murch

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#14 posted 860 days ago

This “stand your ground ” law -
- I’m walking toward my table in a McDonald’s with a mug of coffee on the tray.
Some guy shoots me in the head because ” I looked suspicious” and he believed ” I was going to scald
his baby” who was in a buggy beside him.

Can this guy claim “Stand your ground” as a feasible defence? If so, is it a licence for nutters to kill any-one
they don’t like or disagree with.

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RandyM68

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#15 posted 860 days ago

I get you, David, they will use any excuse that they can get to be outraged. That is no reason to not be armed, though. Zimmerman’s original story was totally plausible. He was on neighborhood watch, in a gated community, because just like the rest of us, they have been having burglaries in the area. He sees someone that he doesn’t recognize, and tries to ask him what he is doing. He takes off running. Why? If he wasn’t doing anything but taking a shortcut, why didn’t he stop? I think know exactly why. It’s because he was a smart-assed teenaged boy. I wouldn’t have stopped when I was 17, either. Even if I honestly wasn’t doing anything wrong, I wouldn’t have stopped for a neighborhood watchman any more than that clown that drives the golf cart around the mall. I would have flipped him the bird and run off. If he caught me, and showed me a gun, I would have whipped his Barney Fife ass. Unless he shot me first. It would have been entirely my fault. I used to run from real cops, too, not just the play ones. Then, I usually was doing something wrong, or at least illegal.

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