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Forum topic by RussellAP posted 738 days ago 1066 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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RussellAP

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738 days ago

I mostly build Adirondack chairs and small deck tables. Buying screws at Lowes is frustrating and expensive. I found a place called Monster Fastener dot com, they seem to have great prices.

I can get by on #6 screws, I don’t build anything requiring thicker screws. I drill pilots and countersink for all screws as a rule.

Here are the specs on what I intend to buy. Tell me if you think this will work.

Type Deck Screw
Style Serrated
Diameter #6
Length < 2” >
Head Style Bugle
Driver Type < #2 Square Bit
Material Steel
Finish Dacrotized
Application Exterior

I planned to get these in 1-1/4”, 1-5/8”, and 1-2”.
Quantities are close to 1000 per for a total of $58.00. Shipping is free for orders over $50.

Before I pull the trigger on this sale, I’d like your input.

Thanks in advance.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.


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Howie

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#1 posted 738 days ago

Check with McFeeley’s for comparison. Their catalog also has a lot of good info about screws.
Your choice above sounds about right though. Price is reasonable.

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RussellAP

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#2 posted 738 days ago

Howie- Monster sells 1000 roughly, for around $19.00 whereas McFeely sells the same quantity for $26.00.

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PRGDesigns

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#3 posted 738 days ago

I purchase a large number of SS deck screws for a variety of outdoor projects. The best prices I ever got for bulk quantities was from Menards (big box lumber yard, i.e. Lowes, Home Depot, etc.). Fastenal was a close second. There is a Menards in Sedalia or St. Joe, which I think are the closest ones to your location. You can also check their prices on the web. Good luck.

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#4 posted 737 days ago

If you are using softwood for your furniture, I would go with #8 screws.

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doninvegas

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#5 posted 737 days ago

I build Adirondack furniture as well and I use SS #8 buldge head square drive screws. I used 1 3/4. I got a lot from Apple Fasteners. Now I get the 1 5/8 from Mc Feely’s. I’ll have to check out Monster.

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RussellAP

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#6 posted 737 days ago

doninvegas- I’m going to work on a design that hides the screws, maybe attach the seat and back from the back side. Any thoughts on how that can be done?

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#7 posted 737 days ago

Counterbore and plug.

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#8 posted 704 days ago

I’m new to woodworking and see a lot designs that say they use 1-1/2 inch screws, but I have had trouble locating them. Seems like everywhere (lowes, home depot, ace hardware, etc.) I look only sells 1-5/8 inch screws. Where is the best place to buy 1-1/2 screws, or should I just use the 1-5/8?

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#9 posted 704 days ago

On out door projects that have exposed screws I use stainless steal. I buy mine from Louis and company their not cheep but they keep your customers happy by having a good looking piece of furniture that they can tell their friends where they got them from,instead of a bunch of rusty hardware that makes you work look like crap. Just my 2 cents

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DS

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#10 posted 704 days ago

For business, it is best to buy from wholesale distribution whenever possible.
This requires establishing accounts at various suppliers in your area.

For screws in Metro Phoenix, there is U.S. Industrial Fasteners, Copper State Nut and Bolt, Louis and Company and so on. I would recommend accounts for your lumber as well.

You can even have standing orders that just show up at your door on a schedule, if you like.
All this being far cheaper and usually better quality than you local big box store.

Being successful in business is as much about how you buy as about how you sell.

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a1Jim

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#11 posted 704 days ago

Right on DS very good points.

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RussellAP

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#12 posted 704 days ago

I went ahead and got the screws from http://monsterfastener.com/sizelist.aspx?type=Deck%20Screw.
They are really great. I’m building a chair with them now.
No duds in any of the sizes and they are dacrotized for outdoor use.
I highly recommend these fasteners.

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a1Jim

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#13 posted 704 days ago

I hope they work out great for you. I used dacrotized (fancy name for ceramic coating) years ago but found the coating would chip where the driver bit screwed them in and they would rust at that point. I hope they have been improved since then.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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RussellAP

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#14 posted 704 days ago

Jim, call me crazy or meticulous, but I measure each screw hole so it’s where is needs to be, then I tap it with a punch, then drill a pilot very carefully, then with another screw gun, (I have three screw guns for every screw I drive), then I counter sink for the bugle, then I gently drive the screw to flush with the surface of the wood. The square bits are very gentle on the dacrotized surface.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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RussellAP

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#15 posted 704 days ago

Also, these screws from Monster are really nice looking. You can’t get anything like it in town at a store.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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