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RussellAP

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823 days ago

There are two kinds of cedar that I know of, regular fencing cedar and aromatic cedar. My question is do they come from different trees or is aromatic just the heartwood of a cedar tree?

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#1 posted 823 days ago

This should answer your question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_wood

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#2 posted 823 days ago

Thanks Jim.
I just got back from Home Depot where I found some cedar that has been planed on one side. The dimensions needed for adirondack chairs is perfect. I never saw these at Lowes. I got enough for two chairs and it cost me about 70 bucks.

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#3 posted 823 days ago

How many feet of cedar do you plan on for each chair.Did you buy western read cedar?

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RussellAP

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#4 posted 823 days ago

They don’t say what kind of cedar it is.
So far I’ve been using one 2×6x6, one 1×6x6, one 2×4x3 and about three 1×4x6 for each chair.

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#5 posted 823 days ago

Russ, Aromatic or eastern red cedar is not a good material for outdoor use even though I have seen it used
that way. The stuff is soft and about half of it is sap wood. It is wonderful anything interior and lends itself well to trinkets where it will be seen for its highly figured grain and sap wood. I have several storm damaged
trees laying behind the shop that I will bandsaw up and make something out of. Good Luck

-- WoodyG

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RussellAP

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#6 posted 823 days ago

I’m not using the aromatic WoodyG. I have seen an aromatic cedar chair at Lowes made by someone here locally for sale at $325.00 which I think is way too much. I plan to sell mine for about $160.00 base model White Pine. It goes up from there based on what kind of wood they want. I think the Cedar will sell for the same price and I’m considering just making the production chairs and tables out of cedar anyway as a base model. If they want other woods I’ll have to price them out for a quote, but I’d be glad to sell them in cedar only.

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DS

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#7 posted 823 days ago

Aromatic Cedar—useful for closet and chest linings to deter insects. Strong odor.
Western Red Cedar—No.2 pencil variety. Sometimes favored by Native American Flutemakers.
Alaskan Yellow Cedar—light yellow in color, cool looking, fairly dense—Unsure of primary usage.

..and that’s all I have to say about that.

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Bagtown

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#8 posted 823 days ago

DS251 – Don’t forget Eastern White Cedar.

-- Mike - In Fort McMurray Alberta

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#9 posted 823 days ago

Russell are you using the cedar they sell for decking i think it is 5/4? Or are you using the cedar that they sell for window casings and such?

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DS

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#10 posted 823 days ago

Bagtown: I can’t forget what I never knew. hehehe

What are the primary characteristics of Eastern White Cedar?

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Bagtown

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#11 posted 823 days ago

DS251 – It’s what grows around here. (Eastern Canada)
Grows well in swamps.
Used for shakes and shingles, decks, etc.
Good natural rot resistance.

-- Mike - In Fort McMurray Alberta

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a1Jim

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#12 posted 823 days ago

In the link I gave above if you click on any of the (hi-lighted links)for trees it gives a very detailed info sheet on each tree. I looked at western red cedar and it said it was really cauterized as a cypress ,I already knew that Port orford cedar was really a cypress.

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#13 posted 823 days ago

Aromatic cedar is a different tree than western cedar. I use a LOT of eastern red cedar ( aromatic) to make trunks and boxes. I find it to be a stronger wood than the western cedar. Western cedar is used here for fencing. Buyers really like the smell of the eastern cedar so that is what I use mostly. I buy it by the truckload about every 9 months or so. Here it costs about what oak costs.

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#14 posted 823 days ago

Jordanusmc- The stuff I bought today is for window casings I would think. It’s planed on one side. It’s all 8’ and comes in several convenient dimensions which will require a lot less cutting on my part.

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#15 posted 823 days ago

Russell, I’m pretty sure the cedar they sell at Home Cheapo is what’s called “STK” (select tight knot), western red cedar. I’ve made several pieces of outdoor furniture with it (mostly potting benches for my mother, wife, sister-in-law, etc), and it works great for that. It’s pretty strong, and should be fine for chairs too, but I haven’t built any chairs with it.

Hope this helps,
- John

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