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gfadvm

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04-08-2012 02:40 AM

I’ve been making some non-mitered, half lap pic frames and I’m looking for options to hold the glass/pic/backing in without using those turnkey things. The stock is too hard for those press-in thingys. I know someone here will have a novel solution that is shop made.EDIT: my wife said to add that they need to be idiot proof so she can sell them to idiots!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm


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#1 posted 04-08-2012 02:45 AM

I use the turn buttons. You can get them framing suppliers for about 10% of what ww suppliers charge. Hopefully you get some other suggestions.

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rance

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#2 posted 04-08-2012 02:49 AM

Why not just screw a 1/8” sheet of baltic birch ply to the back with flat head screws? Most any picture frame could afford an 1/8” backing. I doubt it would stick out any further than your hanging mechanism.

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gfadvm

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#3 posted 04-08-2012 02:53 AM

Shane, Thanks, but I’m looking for something shop made. Rance, Does not qualify under the idiot proof clause. “An idiot will buy them and not have a screwdriver or know how to use it” ( this per my wife).

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#4 posted 04-08-2012 03:14 AM

Could you possibly flatten one side of a small washer so that as it turned it would either hold the picture in or allow it out.

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#5 posted 04-08-2012 04:08 AM

if the frame was thick enough, (this might be a krazy thought), couldn’t you cut a slot all the way around and slide the glass, and pic, & maybe cardboard stock for backing, down through the top? Using half-laps, I don’t know if this will work. Use a key-hole cutter in the center for hanging it with a nail or screw. I’m gonna be making a shadow box for my inlaws soon, and was thinking of doing something like this only the glass (which is 1/8” plexi), will be glued to the top profiled “trim”, hopefully. ???

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lizardhead

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#6 posted 04-08-2012 05:30 AM

See my shadow box several posts ago. I cut a dado for the glass & used a drop of sho goo here and there to prevent rattle

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rance

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#7 posted 04-08-2012 05:53 AM

You must have some real doozies there in Jenks. LOL. So what’s the aversion against using the turnkey things?

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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gfadvm

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#8 posted 04-08-2012 01:15 PM

Rance, I don’t have any turn keys, can’t find any except those clunky plastic ones locally, and I don’t want to order and wait on them. Monte, I’m still trying to get a mental pic of the washer idea but I don’t see it yet.

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#9 posted 04-08-2012 01:30 PM

One suggestion since they are a half lap jointed frame would be to cut grooves for the glass, picture and backing to slide into and then use 2 screws to hold the 2 bottom joints to hold the bottom of the frame together.
Simple quick and easy that any idiot could manage.
Just a thought!

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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Clint Searl

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#10 posted 04-08-2012 01:43 PM

My wife does a lot of framing. She uses a Logan point shooter with adjustable depth control. It’s the only way to fly.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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gfadvm

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#11 posted 04-08-2012 11:48 PM


Those sound like reasonable solutions but here is what I did: shop made turn keys from tongue depressors. May not be pretty but they work and they’re ‘idiot proof’.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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rance

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#12 posted 04-09-2012 12:40 AM

You could also try velcro across the corners for the REAL idiots that can’t tie their shoes either. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#13 posted 04-09-2012 12:41 AM

Just tell your customers to use masking tape. Works for me!

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#14 posted 04-09-2012 12:50 AM

I use MDF cut to size of rabbit hole. Most time does not need anything to hold it in. Braid or shim maybe and it hold paper backing, picture and glass tight and smooth. Your edge pieces work but you need picture stiffness.

-- Phil Zoeller louisville, KY

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gfadvm

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#15 posted 04-09-2012 01:36 AM

Good point Phil. Cardboard behind the pic won’t be stiff enough? My shop made turn keys would hold a thin piece of mdf just as well. I just didn’t think of it. Good one Rance! Charlie, I agree with you but my wife says that’s ‘tacky’.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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