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Mitt Romney making good points about President Obama

I think he brought some very clear and important points about our current President.

Everyone should watch this before election day.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"


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lumberdog

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#1 posted 867 days ago

And president Obama made some good point about him.

-- Lumberdog.. Michigan

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DrDirt

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#2 posted 867 days ago

Yeah Barry does point out that Romney is a member of the 1%.

Of course so is Obama – even excluding his book deals since the president’s official salary is 400K and ~350K is solidly 1%.
But Barry will tell you how he is just some humble guy from Chicago working the south side to help people.
Not that He and Michelle are raking in the dough.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#3 posted 867 days ago

I prefer logic and reason to lies and recriminations.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#4 posted 867 days ago

Whether you like Romney or not, the points made about Obama, HANDS DOWN, wins the Prize!

If you are happy with what Obama has done, you will be Happier if he gets re-elected!
... and you must find out what planet you’re living on…

If you are NOT happy with what Obama has done, you will be MORE UnHappy if he gets re-elected!
... and wish you were on another planet!

If you are not happy with what Obama has done, someone ELSE must be Elected to replace Obama and his administration in order to SAVE our country for our Children & Grandchildren; otherwise, they will have it a whole lot WORSE than WE had it growing up in the Greatest Nation on earth…. and they will wish they were on another planet.

IMHO…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#5 posted 867 days ago

Politics seems to bring out the lies and recriminations, and makes it pretty hard to find the logic and reason.

Most of what I hear about the deficit, debt, and economy strikes me as fear mongering. I’m not an economist, but I heard an interview of Simon Peter (co-author, White House Burning) who is, and he made a lot of sense to me. His primary point is that we need to decide what functions we want the federal government to perform, and then provide the appropriate level of revenue to fund those functions. The major component of the deficits over the past several years he said was due to revenue reductions, which is what happens when there is a recession. Increasing debt during recessions is exactly the right thing to do, he said, as is paying down debt (as opposed to cutting taxes) when times are good.

I think Democrats generally like to spend too much money on too many entitlements, but what they’ve done since Obama took office strikes me as far less scary than my impression of the Republican proposals lately. Those seem to be a lot of eliminating taxes while increasing military spending, and that strikes me as far more fiscally irresponsible.

My preference would be to cut military spending, eliminate the Bush era tax cuts completely, and tax capital gains as ordinary income.

Let’s also take a hard look at all the realities of entitlements. It would be horribly expensive to guarentee every individual, no matter how personally irresponsible they have been, a comfortable retirement and/or all the health care services that they might want. So let’s all get comfortable that, regarding Social Security for example, we are talking about at what point we are willing to kick little old ladies to the curb because they’ve run out of money. And with health care, at what point are we willing to let people die because they cannot afford health care services that might extend their lives. I have no question that we, as a society, can come up with a social safety net that is both humane and affordable, provided we look clearly and realistically at all of the issues involved.

If a Republican wanted to get my vote they would have gotten behind the Simpson-Bowles proposal, or come up with an alternative that was equally serious and honest. From what I have heard I am left to expect that Republicans are going to want to cut taxes regardless of what it does to the country, and that strikes me as far more irresponsible than anyting Obama has done (so far).

-- Greg D.

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#6 posted 867 days ago

Hope Obama goes in again, nobody want to loose a good man

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#7 posted 867 days ago

Greg:

If you don’t believe how much trouble our Nation is in (as well as the rest of the world.. Greece, Spain, Europe, etc.) you have NOT been paying attention!

If you don’t know how much money this administration has poured down a Rat Hole, you have NOT been paying attention!

IMHO, if Obama has it for FOUR more years, we will end up in a position worse than GREECE, etc….
...primarily because the ONLY way Obama thinks he knows how to solve the Problem(s) is to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, on more illogical boondoggles resulting in our Nation really going Bankrupt!

It is THAT SERIOUS…

This is the most important time of our entire History!

Obama must be replaced… BY ANYONE! ANYONE, with half a brain would be better & would probably turn our Nation around. (IMHO, Pelosi, etc. have no brains at all!)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#8 posted 867 days ago

Joe:

When I have been paying attention these past few years I have heard a great deal of hysteria, blatent lies, and misinformation. With the upcoming presidential election I’m confident this is going to get worse.

Simon Peter is an economist talking about economics, so I’m inclined to place a somewhat high regard on his assesments because of his expertise, because of the history and data he cites, and because what he says sounds logical to me. Have a listen to his interview. As I recall, he also thinks the situation is pretty serious, but his recommended course of action is quite different than what you suggest.

Tell you what. His book is only $14 at Amazon. If you want to convince me, how about we both read it to provide a common base line to work from, and then we can discuss current economics further?

-- Greg D.

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Howie

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#9 posted 867 days ago

Vote out all incumbents this year. Even if it’s the local dogcatcher.
I’m voting for Alfred E. Newman.

-- Life is good.

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#10 posted 867 days ago

GergD:

Do me a favor…

1. Make a list of everything Obama has done to improve our Nation.

2. In column two, enter the total Cost he spent on it, to the nearest Billion or Trillion.

3. In column three, enter Yes / No to answer the question: “Did it work?”.

4. Total it up… count the Yes’s and No’s…

How good did he do?

Do you think he will do better in the Next four years?

If Simon Peter has been trying to tutor President Obama on What and What Not to do, he has not helped at all.

I thought there was going to be an Audio interview to listen to Simon… if so, I couldn’t find it.

I’m not going buy his book for $14 to possibly help an Obama election… If I can’t get the basic information from the Internet, too bad. Just a general outline is all I need…

I do know that Obama has no Clue of what to do or How to do it… NONE whatsoever… All he can do is Speak well… with a Teleprompter… and blatantly lie.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#11 posted 867 days ago

I was ready to pull the trigger on that book, Greg. But, my wife needed the $14.00 to fill the gas weed eater.
I agree with your tax recommendations….as far as they go.
I would take it MUCH farther and set a single tax rate for every tax payer regardless of their source of income. In addition, I would eliminate ALL deductions for individuals. I would also totally eliminate corporate taxes. Corporations, as the tax system is currently structured, are merely tax collectors. They pass their tax burden on to their customers, in their pricing.
Drastic cuts to military spending is short sighted. A better source of cuts, IMO, would be to eliminate all subsidies to corporations and cease all federal government loans and grants to business start ups.
Further, there exists so many redundant federal programs and departments that eliminating those overlaps would probably pay the interest on the debt for a couple days.
These concepts might seem simplistic to some, but I’m just a simple guy.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Howie

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#12 posted 867 days ago

Gene: alas but such a pipe dream. You know the politicians are not going to do anything to upset their gravy train.
Good idea though.

-- Life is good.

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GrandpaLen

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#13 posted 867 days ago

...yep, I miss President Reagan and $.89/gal. gas.

Several unpaid Military conflicts later and the Wall Street up and comers, Banks with great imginative loans, and Corporations putting Bottum Lines and Stockholders ahead of their employees and products, and jobs going north, south, east, and west of our boarders, what man under his own power, can back that truck up?

Several administrations have tried to pull back the reigns on that mustang. Too much going on, too fast.
Arguing back and forth across the aisle hasn’t worked well for decades.

My Mother would have sent those political and corporate big wigs to there rooms and told them not to come out till they got their differences settled.

So I think my Mom should be President, she raised 3 girls and 3 boys and brought it all in under budget.

...just sayin’ :-)

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#14 posted 867 days ago

The biggest problem I have with these things is the focus that the commentaries have on the opponent. I personally do not feel that any of the presidents came into the White House with the intention of “destroying the country.” All had ideas on what the problem is and what can be done to fix it. If the problem was solely one specific leader then peace and prosperity would surround that leader’s term. Obviously, that isn’t the case. I don’t care what one opponent thinks about another. What I care about is what one is intending to do about the problem and what they perceive the problem to be. And I don’t want to just hear the promise of prosperity. Show me the map you have on how we are going to get there.

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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jeepturner

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#15 posted 867 days ago

I love the fact that with your post I get two adds promoting the reelection of President Obama. Thanks Joe for your effort.

@ Greg: I find, that I don’t talk about economics with republicons, it’s like science and they don’t receive it well. I agree that the conversation is framed in a manner where asking the proper questions, Like where do we raise revenue to reduce our deficit spending? is greeted with accusations that you are not paying attention or other accusatory rhetoric. John Adams had it right, we must be on guard against the tyranny of the one, the few and the many. We have unlimited wants and limited means. But the greatest thing about this country is the people, and we the people united can do anything, but divided and hating we can do nothing.

Joe if I do want to know what Romney is going to say, I will just go to the drudge report or tune into fox. That way I will know in advance what his talking points will be. But thanks for posting the video link.

The Senator Lieberman said it best, “Mame(addressing the lady holding a sign with the president depicted as a Nazi) I would rather debate that table.

-- Mel,

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