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Novawood1

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874 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: hand planes stanley bailey 3 4 5 restoration tote nob sharpening planer blade

Hi everyone,

I’m new here and recently got some vintage Stanley bailey hand planes #3,4 and 5. They need some work. The totes are damaged, any leads on where I can get some replacements. Also any resources on how to clean these up and maybe a tutorial on how to properly sharpen blades. Any help would be great.

-- Kurk, Ohio


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KenBry

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#1 posted 874 days ago

Might I suggest you try to SEARCH the information you are looking for by using the Search function on the right? Those subjects are very well covered through out the site. I would type more and provide more info but I honestly am running out the door and wanted to help you as quickly as I could.

-- Ken, USAF MSgt, Ret.

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knotscott

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#2 posted 874 days ago

Welcome to LJ’s Kirk. Would love to see pics of your old planes…..both before and after.

There might be some useful info in one of these websites:
Rexmill.com
Cianperez.com

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#3 posted 874 days ago

Get to know fellow LJ Don W:

http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol/blog/24090

His blogs are an ultimate how to and motivation!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Don W

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#4 posted 874 days ago

Welcome to LJ’s. You’ll find lots of help here. It tends to turn a few restores into a lifetime additction. Smitty pointed you to my blogs, but there are a lot more.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Novawood1

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#5 posted 870 days ago

Hey guys thanks for the help. I’ll get pictures up for you later today. The restore is going well so far. Im excited to get them sharpened and to see the final working result. Thanks for the help. I also picked up a #7 and keen kutter k4 with corrugated bottom this weekend at an auction. I guess I have more work to do. I’ll get pictures of those up soon too.

-- Kurk, Ohio

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Bill White

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#6 posted 870 days ago

Highland Woodworking has rebuild kits for Stanleys. Check ‘em out.
No connection, just a customer.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Brandon

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#7 posted 870 days ago

Great score! I love the Keen Kutter K series. I have the K5 (it belonged to my wife’s grandfather). The K4 (a Bedrock plane) is a great addition. The #7 is also a great jointer. Welcome to the club!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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Novawood1

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#8 posted 870 days ago

I wouldnt consider either in poor condition, just need a little bit of work, they both have broken totes that are glued back together. Any suggestions on how to clean up the tote and knobs?

-- Kurk, Ohio

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Don W

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#9 posted 870 days ago

I haven’t found a better way to clean up the totes than by hand. If its varnish, scrape it first then sand it. I start with 60 and go up to 500 grit.

The knob I chuck in the drill press.

More info on my restore blog.

Edit: and you are right, they look in pretty good shape. They should clean up great.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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chrisstef

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#10 posted 870 days ago

lee valley also has templates for Stanley totes on their website.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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bandit571

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#11 posted 870 days ago

I’ve used those templates for a few totes I’ve made

No. 4 Tote, and a Number 5 tote

A look at them installed

and finished

And the bailey #8c

Templates will tell you where to drill, and what drill size, as well as the angles to cut. Works nice on Black Walnut…...

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Dan

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#12 posted 870 days ago

A tote that has been broke in two can usually be fixed to a point where it is hardly noticeable that it was ever broken. Just takes a little time.

When I get broken totes that were poorly fixed by a previous owner I will start by breaking the tote back into two pieces. Once you have your two pieces all you need to do is sand each end flat so that you have a nice flat surface to glue. Its not really important that the whole surface be flat, just as long as its flat around the outside edges. Then all you have to do is glue them back together. I just use masking tape to clamp the two parts and have never had one re-break on me but you can also figure out a way to clamp the totes. Here are some pics of a tote I fixed…

Here was the tote before. Someone had done a poor job of trying to fix it.

Here is a look at the tote after I re-broke it.

After I sanded both ends flat.

The tote after its been glued and sanded down. You cant even tell it was ever broken.

One last picture after finish was applied.

Note – Depending on how much material you remove when sanding the broken ends you may end shortening the tote to a point where the bolt is now to long to hold the tote tightly. If this happens all I do is cut the bolt down a little using a hack saw. Just be careful not to ruin the threads when cutting. I have only had to do this a few times, usually you don’t have to remove enough material to warrant shortening the bolt.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#13 posted 870 days ago

Dan, that’s a beautiful job.

Don’t you wonder about the users in the past that did such a crappy job gluing up broken totes, as in, what kind of work was acceptable with their tools they had if that’s what they settled for w/ a repair job? I’m not one to talk, because my attempt at tote repair didn’t end well at all (the bent tote screw had alot to do with it, as did my lack of patience letting the glue ‘cure’ long enough). But I also didn’t stick the thing back onto the tool and call it ‘done.’

Things that make you say, Hmmmm….

Of course, I’ve seen field-grade fixes for power tools that also wouldn’t pass the sniff test. So maybe it isn’t so weird after all.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Mauricio

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#14 posted 870 days ago

Dan I have a tote that needs that exact same repair, I’ll be trying your technique soon.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Novawood1

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#15 posted 869 days ago

While I’m initially restoring these planes for use. At some point I will come across planes I don’t need or already have. I know there is a market for planes out there. What is the difference between selling an old plane and a fully restored plane do collectors, etc desire the restored planes or does that full restoration with removing of rust, sanding and painting detract value? Any insight on this would be great.

I will have pictures of the keen kutter k4 and the Stanley # 7 and block plane up later today.

-- Kurk, Ohio

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