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Forum topic by gfadvm posted 04-04-2012 02:21 AM 9983 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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gfadvm

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04-04-2012 02:21 AM

How soon can I brush shellac over oil based stain and not cause problems? I have sprayed poly when the stain was still tacky and got away with it. The project is a shelf unit, not fine furniture.

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#1 posted 04-04-2012 03:15 AM

a couple hours i think andy depending on temp and humidity and its not fine furniture so go for it.

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#2 posted 04-04-2012 03:19 AM

I would give it at least 8 hours. Check the stain can to see what it says, but generally oil stain will take 6 to 8 hours to totally dry depending on humidity etc.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#3 posted 04-04-2012 03:20 AM

Thanks Blaine, After the ‘bubble finish’ I’m going to ask questions first! Wayne, Oil stains are usually not totally dry after 24 hours in my experience but shellac seems so forgiving I wanted totry it because I’m in a big hurry here. Rance, The whole point of my question was: has anyone ever put shellac over ‘partially dried stain? and if so, how did it work? Thanks for making me clarify my query.

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#4 posted 04-04-2012 03:23 AM

When it is dry, thats how long. ‘Drying time’ can vary significantly. If you are in a hurry, put it in front of a fan.

If you are ok with ‘getting away’ with stuff and are willing to re-do it if it fails, then it’s your call.(not trying to be smart alek here). If it is not ‘Fine Furniture’, then you can do it quicker.

PS: My answers are as ambiguous as your question. (this WAS meant smart alek) :)

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#5 posted 04-04-2012 04:00 AM

If you want to put shellac on wet oil base stain I think you asking for trouble but do a test on separate piece of wood and see how it works. I would suggest if your in a hurry a oil finish might not be the way to go. But the better the quality of the oil finish the faster it seems to dry.

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#6 posted 04-04-2012 01:06 PM

a1 jim says it right. try some samples and mark the time on each one the last being 24 hours and the first being one hour and see what happens. also note air temp and humidity then you can use this as a reference for the future.

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#7 posted 04-05-2012 12:38 AM

FOLLOW UP: I applied 3 coats of shellac over stain 12 hours after applying the stain. Stain was still a little tacky but the shellac dried fast and I applied additional coats of shellac at 2-3 hour intervals. It seemed to work great and I’ll be able to assemble/deliver this unit tomorrow. Thanks for the input.

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