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03-31-2012 11:29 PM

For a period of about five months I worked on data collection and trials of these four machines here are my findings please let me know what you think of the article and the results this was the biggest test we have done in 15 years at this old workshop.com click this link to read the story. http://thisoldworkshop.com/index.php/reviews/114-catagory-powersharpeners/122-review-sharpener

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#1 posted 04-01-2012 01:52 AM

Wow a hundred of you opened this thread and not one of you has said anything about the review I think I am hurt :(

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#2 posted 04-01-2012 01:58 AM

Hey Lance, its a quick read and a good review. You might want to include the data and trials in an easy to read chart. Maybe people were looking for more info for comparison on the units or maybe its just Saturday night ;-)

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#3 posted 04-01-2012 02:04 AM

I thought of doing a chart but felt it would make people not read the review you know so it would be a trade off either way

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#4 posted 04-01-2012 03:16 AM

Lance,

Just finished reading your review and must say, you have taken the confusion out of comparison.
It’s been quite difficult to try and sort out most of the other reviews available today as far as quality vs. value.
Most confusing was value, adding what jigs had to be purchased seperately raising the total cost and then weighing that to the actual quality and ease of use of the add-ons.
I’ve considered purchasing a Sharpening System, but I hand sharpen my chisels and irons by hand the way my grandfather always did, send the saw blades out and replace drill bits as needed.
My need does not justify aTormek but after your review of the Work Sharp 3000, I may now be in the market for a sharpener.

Thanks for the reviews.

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#5 posted 04-01-2012 03:41 PM

Lance,
I read your review and appreciate you taking the time to provide all the details. I sold my Worksharp a couple weeks ago and have to agree that it is a really good sharpener. It was fast and reliable at sharpening chisels and I never did sharpen any lathe tools other than skews. I have a Makita wet sharpener that I made disks for and a tool bar similar to the Tormek and decided I can get the same results with it so I sold the Worksharp. I also have a Jet that is still new in the box and am not sure if I will use it or sell it. At this time the jury is out on it. Your review might just push me over the edge to sell it too.

john

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#6 posted 04-01-2012 08:04 PM

Len, thanks so much for the input.I am glad i helped clear the muck. I worked very hard on the review and felt it was a good review. it was the largest review we have ever done and it was a load of fun having all the machines together is a blast.

John Don’t be hasty on ousting the jet in the every day user it is not a bad machine. It just doesn’t measure up to the Tormek. Mostly because the motor is weak. I am looking into adding a bigger motor to my jet to see if that is a solution for the lack of power. However we did figure out that you can turn up the speed and increase the torque a bit and it wont stall as bad. However under pressure it still bogs down but it is not a reason to oust the unit if you already have it. You could continue to gather up Tormek jigs and books and make due till you can afford to get the real deal and it will work. It came in third in our review because it bogged down and i had to have something to judge them on as they were all well built. I still have the jet and i do use it from time to time to continue my testing over the long term. I will be writing individual reviews of these machines to aid in the archive search to help our website out, but all in all i would not jump to sell it off,for it will do a fine job on turning tools and a great job if you opt for the tormek turning jigs which i liked more than the jet jigs.

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#7 posted 04-01-2012 08:26 PM

Were the MSRPs anywhere? I didnt see that info. I could imagine some of these get spendy with all the attatchments. Was the dmt tested on the worksharp? If so does it yield a better/quicker edge, or is it just a longer lasting option than the paper abrasives?

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#8 posted 04-02-2012 12:22 AM

Fair and straight forward. You give a clearer more honest review than Fine Woodworking. As I recall, in the FWW review they forgot to mention that the Jet consistently slowed down under pressure. This is the same magazine that rated Jet parallel clamps as superior to Bessey. They also have tons of Jet’s/Powermatic advertisements in their Magazine. Hmm! I think I see a pattern here. I’ve had the Tormek for six years and can’t imagine being without it. Thanks for the truth.

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#9 posted 04-02-2012 12:28 AM

K.I.S.S.

Temp. Control is my fingertips on the iron, too hot for the fingers, too hot for the steel. Once I’m done here, I leave the iron in the jig, and go bother an oil stone or two. Cheap, and easy, my kind of set-up….

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#10 posted 04-02-2012 04:02 AM

LOL, love it bandit! Won’t your roller guide wear out too?

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#11 posted 04-02-2012 04:06 AM

Shane great idea I ran that Idea by the editor in chief and he has decided we will list msrp and actual selling prices on retail sites for our reviews this will take a few days to do

Also I am currently writing the Dmt review and A little ahead of my review yes they were faster and much cooler and the edge cuts better well wort the price and they seem to last forever but they supposedly wear out

Mcase thank you very much sir we try our best to tell it like it is

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#12 posted 04-02-2012 04:24 AM

I appreciate your efforts in reviewing and collating this info. I must say, though, that I will never buy a Tormek simply because I have better uses for all that money. Not that it is not a good machine but that it is very much over priced.

-- Bill, "GreyLion" ,Montana, Eph 2:8

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#13 posted 04-02-2012 05:26 AM

bandit that may work ok but ill take the edges from all the machines I tested over a belt sander that only has one grit also on your machine I am curious how you sharpen turning tools and other things like carving tools and kitchen knives planner blades jointer knives and scissors

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#14 posted 04-02-2012 12:03 PM

thanks for the review Lance.

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#15 posted 04-02-2012 12:29 PM

Great review. But I have to say it is difficult to compare the Worksharp to the Jet or Tormek because they are totally different systems, with massively different prices!

I like the Worksharp because it is affordable. If I had a thousand extra bucks, I’d get a Tormek. But since I have a Worksharp, I did a lot of upgrades that I think make it even better. I did two different episodes of Blue Collar Woodworking on it. The latest one shows how to use your own Tormek bar setup (which cost $20 instead of the $50 Worksharp wants for theirs)

The second video shows how to use MDF discs and buffing compound instead of the expensive sandpaper they sell.

Anyway, thanks for the great review! I’ll bookmark it for future reference!

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