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Douglas Bordner

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03-31-2012 03:00 PM

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Good weekend, woodworkers. Most folks that know me know that I am primarily a small box guy. Although I have a early incarnation of the Incra wooden hinge jig, and have several sets in my pile of box adornments I have never used them, caught by how best to utilize them (exterior mount, mortised in, etc.). How do you use them? Let’s see your project cards and discuss, if you’ve a moment. Thanks!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.


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#1 posted 03-31-2012 03:36 PM

Maybe not what you’re looking for, but I’ll throw my $.02 in anyway.

While I greatly admire the skill and ingenuity behind many of the wooden hinges I’ve seen here, I have to say that, aesthetically, I’m just not a fan. They are too big and clunky-looking for small boxes, in my opinion, but that’s just a matter of personal taste.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 03-31-2012 04:06 PM

Douglas, I have the Incra hinge jig, but find it just about as fast to use regular box joints (although the Incra Jig hinges are a little better looking). I have only made them as surface mounted hinges, but I think that I will drift toward mortising them in the future.

Charlie, I agree with you, I also do not care for the “bulk” that they add to a small box – BUT having said that I absolutely love the challenge they add to a project. I am finishing a box right now that will utilize some Cocobolo hinges. These will be surface mounted.

-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/

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#3 posted 03-31-2012 04:09 PM

Charlie, thanks for weighing in. I can see some boxes benefiting from rusticity, bigger live edge campaign style boxes etc. I think of some of YorkshireStewart’s boxes as a stylistic example. and then there are his insane hinges actually cut into the back and lid, which would only make me dizzy to contemplate and are a wholly different animal.

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Some of my ready sets are quite small, and if let into the carcase and lid would only have a bit of knuckle showing, but I am not sure of the best way, and I am pretty sold on there being a stop involved, as I’m not much for chain tethers etc. inside the box unless there’s a tray lift (tacklebox type deal) involved.

More thoughts?

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#4 posted 03-31-2012 04:11 PM

Howdy, Bill. The boxmaker’s squad from The Sportsman’s Paradise has certainly come through this morning. Hope all is well, glad to see you’re in the middle of a project.
Do those surface mounts stop the lid? I apologize for just not having a very functional mechanical aptitude unless I am manipulating something physical (not great at mental gyrations), and although I could just mock-up some sacrificial deal, or read the directions, I thought I would just bug y’all. ;^J

If Lee, Gary and Miles come aboard the South will be solidly represented…

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#5 posted 03-31-2012 04:39 PM

Interesting topic Douglas. Thanks for the mention. Here’s one that I dealt with a bit differently. I’m not familiar with the Incra wooden hinge jig. I’ll look that one up.

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#6 posted 03-31-2012 04:57 PM

And here are a few more.

-- Res severa verum gaudium - True pleasure is a serious business. http://www.folksy.com/shops/TreeGems

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#7 posted 03-31-2012 05:06 PM

So pleased to see you here Stewart, you’re a master at these, among you’re other considerable gifts. The top example is particularly handsome.
Do they stop, or are they mechanically “tight” enough to stay put at 95° or so?

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#8 posted 03-31-2012 05:21 PM

Hello Douglas.

Thanks for your comments. From my pictures, it looks as if all of these open beyond 90 deg. The way I sometimes create a stop is to round off only half of the hinge barrel.

-- Res severa verum gaudium - True pleasure is a serious business. http://www.folksy.com/shops/TreeGems

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#9 posted 03-31-2012 07:18 PM

I certainly do agree that that wooden hinges on larger, more rustic boxes can be totally appropriate, as evidenced above by Stewart’s beautiful creations.

Douglas, I think it would be an interesting challenge to see how you could design wooden hinges to be unobtrusive enough for smaller, more classically-styled boxes.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#10 posted 03-31-2012 07:25 PM

I have made a lot of wooden hinges, there are a couple of my boxes on my project page with them.
I really don’t plan ahead on the design,i just wait until the box has taken shape and then i start making the hinges.

-- Lumberdog.. Michigan

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#11 posted 03-31-2012 11:26 PM

How about these?

They are integral with the box so that they don’t add to the appearance of weight. They stay open at just over 90 degrees and if you like the lid can be removable. I’ve used them on a number of projects and they work well.
I’m also a fan of Stewart’s beautiful hinges and the boxes they grace.

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#12 posted 03-31-2012 11:33 PM

Shipwright, those are beautiful.

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#13 posted 04-01-2012 02:13 AM

Thanks Douglas. Here’s the blog on them.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

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#14 posted 04-01-2012 02:31 AM

Paul, those are beautifully compact… not bulky-looking in the least.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#15 posted 04-01-2012 03:04 AM

Douglas, I am a big fan of wooden hinges. The Shipwright and Patron hinges are my favorites. Both stop just past 90 to hold the lid. Check out my projects for several different types of wooden hinges. (more on the way!). The Patron hinges are the simplest and quickest to make and are very unobtrusive in my opinion. Stewart, You and Paul are my “hinge heros”.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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