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BobM001

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891 days ago

After finding out that my new Milwaukee 6470-21 circular saw was Made in China did some “digging”. It seems that there are damned few if any power tools made in the USA anymore. In this search I found this site. Still Made in the USA Nice to see that there still are several woodworking tool manufacturers still in the USA.

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BlankMan

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#1 posted 890 days ago

Yeah, actually hasn’t hasn’t been any Milwaukee in them for a while but even then they were Made in USA. In the 60’s they moved their headquarters from Milwaukee to Brookfield, a suburb of Milwaukee and are still there and still had manufacturing in Wisconsin till about 2004 I think. After that they were made in Arkansas and Mississippi.

Then Techtronic bought them and closed all USA manufacturing plants and shipped it to China.

Delta started here too and they’re in China now too. Except the Unisaw might still be made in the USA I think and maybe other stuff too. But they’re owned by China now.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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GrandpaLen

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#2 posted 890 days ago

Current ownership – FYI

But still manufactured in the USA

In January, 2011, Taiwan-based Chang Type Industrial Co., Ltd. purchased the Delta brand from Stanley Black & Decker.[2] Chang Type formed a wholly owned subsidiary, Delta Power Equipment Corp. to own the acquired assets including trademarks, designs and industrial tooling.[1] Chang Type is moving Delta’s production tooling from a Stanley Black & Decker owned facility in Jackson, Tennessee to a facility in Anderson County, South Carolina.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Machinery

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startreking

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#3 posted 890 days ago

These companies must be the “job creators” congress is talking about.

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BlankMan

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#4 posted 890 days ago

Thanks Len, that’s good to hear, that they’re still made here for now… I hope that continues, be a dark day if not.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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Stephenw

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#5 posted 890 days ago

I recently checked the country of origin of nearly every DeWalt and Milwaukee power tool at Home Depot.

The Sawzall was marked “Assembled in USA”. Everything else was made in China.

DeWalt seemed to be about an even split between Mexico and China.

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syenefarmer

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#6 posted 890 days ago

Checking the country of origin on display models isn’t always a true picture of whats happening today. Some of the tools on display at the HD here have been there for who knows how many years and ownership transfers.

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WinterSun

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#7 posted 890 days ago

^this. I bought a Milwaukee corded drill a couple years back. The display model was USA but had obviously spent some time on the rack. The ones in the boxes were all Chinese.

-- Rory // Milwaukee, WI

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knotscott

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#8 posted 890 days ago

Very few tools still made in the USA these days. Delta Unisaw is one, but Delta is now owned by Cheng Type Industrial, an Asian company. The General line of tools is still made in Canada, but note that they also have a General International line that’s made mainly in Taiwan.

I grabbed a Milwaukee 5615 router combo kit about 2 years ago….the motor says made in the USA, the plunge was made in China.

There are still plenty of good saw blades and router bits made in the US (Forrest, Ridge Carbide, Whiteside, Eagle America, etc.).

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Stephenw

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#9 posted 890 days ago

syenefarmer,

I didn’t check the display models, I checked the boxes on the shelves.

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MrRon

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#10 posted 890 days ago

Vaughn hammers are still American made, but there’s only so much you can do with just a hammer. That list of “still made in the U.S.A.” will be getting smaller by the day to be replaced by “assembled in the U.S.A.” and then just “made in China and sold in the U.S.A.”. Finally all reference to the U.S.A. will be gone.

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danr

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#11 posted 890 days ago

So I am just curious to know if anyone has an opinion of why all of these well known tool brands are not made in USA anymore and have gone to China. There must be a reason. I have a few opinions but no facts.

Does anyone know?

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Mainiac Matt

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#12 posted 890 days ago

There must be a reason.

two years ago, the CEO of Intel wrote a full page editorial that was carried in the Arizona Republic (as well as other newspapers, I believe) and he talked specifically about the cost of manufacturing in the US.

Intell wanted to build a new semi-conductor plant…

the cost to build the plant in Asia…. $1 billion

the cost to build the plant in the USA … $10 billion.

The difference in cost? you guessed it… government regulations, environmental studies, permitting, taxes, etc…

Believe it or not, Intel built their plant in the US…. but that cost puts them at a very significant competitive disadvantage.

Very interesting article…. his view is that we have been in a trade war for years…. yet we pretend that we’re not in one and don’t make any effort to “fight”.

China has a state controlled economy and they pull all of the strings a powerful state can pull to ensure that their industry succeeds…. monetery policy, foreign policy, military strategy…. all brought to bear on making their economy succeed.

IMHO, for too many years, the US has viewed industry as the bottomless pocket from which politicians with a socialist bent can suck money in order to finance their welfare state constituants and ensure their political fortunes.

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JAAune

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#13 posted 889 days ago

I’m mostly buying European tools (Festool) these days. That’ll likely continue to be the case until some of the “American” companies stop making their products in China and pay more attention to quality control.

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ruel24

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#14 posted 889 days ago

Danr, greed… Plain and simple… When you can move your manufacturing offshore, pay about $.20 an hour for labor, avoid all environmental regulations, and ship it back to sell in this country with no penalty, it’s a no brainer…

I completely disagree with Intel and ssnvet. Intel has a vested interest in simply making things cheaper to increase their bottom line. They’ll twist the facts anyway they deem necessary to fit their agenda, and try to convince you they’re right.

The US is approximately 1/3 the entire global market for consumer goods. The entire continent of Europe makes up another 1/3, and that shows you just how much consumption goes on in this country. Instead of leveraging that in their favor, paid off politicians promote “free trade” where companies can move production to exploit the poor populations and avoid EPA and OSHA regulations and ship the product back to the US without any penalty. The only concerns they have are the cost of shipping, theft, and quality control. They have all allowed the quality control to take a backseat to some degree or another in the name of profits. To put it bluntly, this country is for sale to the highest bidder. Politicians don’t vote the will of the people, but, instead, the will of their financial backers. They have an agenda: Corporate profits. They also have a propaganda machine in right-wing talk radio. Many honest, hard working, blue collar citizens have now been convinced that making corporations more money by shipping their jobs offshore is in their best interest. People have been reduced to voting because of their stance on gun laws, or abortion instead of how it affects their job outlook and their wallet. The left hasn’t help much, either, with their push for unrealistic green energy, unrealistic pollution controls, cap and trade, etc. When Obama came to power, many major refineries, chemical plants, and power houses called off plans for maintenance work because of all the cap and trade talk. It probably sank the economy deeper than it would have been anyway. Eventually that work had to be done, but they played the wait and see game because they could afford to. So the right wants to run industry out to save on wages and make higher profits, and the left wants to run industry out because of pollution.

A simple solution would be to start clamping down on the import of goods from 2nd and 3rd world countries where pollution controls are non-existent, worker safety is of no concern, working conditions are atrocious, and labor wages are at a point so low we can’t compete because of exploitation. Instead, we should grant “free trade” with countries that are on the same page as us with those conditions and are willing to sell our goods freely in their markets, without restriction. Instead, we open out doors to countries that restrict the sale of US goods if they’re in direct competition with goods made their. There is no reason why we should have to compete for wages with 3rd world countries, except for the fact that politicians have sold us out. Every good coming from countries that are deemed uncompetitive should be levied a tariff so large it makes it unwise to produce in those countries while selling the goods here.

And, ssnvet, you’re wrong. Japan also had the same state controlled economy, and where are they now? The fact is, that industry goes where they can exploit the most and become the most efficient. When China starts demanding higher wages, and they can move to Brazil for less, they will. Then, China will nose dive and Brazil will be the new rising star. The countries that have the most industrialization have the strongest economies. It’s always been that way. It’s difficult to have trade when you don’t make much… This is why the politicians need to re-industrialize this country.

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brtech

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#15 posted 888 days ago

Labor cost is a big part.

It’s also that they have the ability to react quickly. We don’t know how to do that. China can create a new factory in months. They can hire a couple HUNDRED industrial engineers to set up the factory in less than a month. We can’t do that. They can get a product change introduced in minutes. Usually, we can’t do that.

Read about the change Apple made to iPhones to improve the cover glass of the display. It took a while to figure out how to cut it. Once they figured that out, they had the factory assembling iPhones in a couple of hours. HOURS, not days, or weeks, or months. Tens of thousands of iPhones started coming off the lines a few hours after the glass arrived, and that was midnight.

You can grouse about how the workers are treated and how much they are paid. You can complain about monetary policy, and environmental policy. All these are true. But if you fixed all of that, you STILL could get the same result there, and you can’t here.

The Chinese have changed much more than the COST of manufacturing. They have fundamentally changed the TIME it takes to get something manufactured.

To me, the weird part of it is that they will do prototypes or small runs cheap and fast too. They have decreased the price of a plastic mold 10X and the time it takes to get it by 1/5. They have done the same to printed circuit boards. You can get 5 boards made in two days for $50. That used to be $5000 and 6-8 weeks.
You can customize say, a laptop on a website, have it assembled to your specs in a couple of hours, and have it in your hands in two days.

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