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03-17-2012 12:58 AM

I’ve been working on a project where I had to use a Torx driver to remove some screws. I don’t think I have used a Torx head before. It got me thinking. I know there are a number of specialized screw head designs but there are really only 5 basic designs of screw heads: slot, phillips, square drive, hex drive and torx drive.

I like square drive PERIOD. There are times when I use hex drive (often with an allen wrench) when adjusting tools, but, when working with wood, I want square drives and nothing else.

I can’t even figure what purpose the torx drive serves.

How about you? What’s your favorite screw?

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#1 posted 03-17-2012 01:02 AM

Finish work ? robertsons all the way

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#2 posted 03-17-2012 01:08 AM

Robertson screw only. Not even sure why slot head screws are even made at all.

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#3 posted 03-17-2012 01:22 AM

Slotted screws on furniture for me.

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#4 posted 03-17-2012 01:25 AM

+1 for square

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#5 posted 03-17-2012 01:31 AM

torx t-20 and t 25 all the way

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#6 posted 03-17-2012 01:37 AM

Square drive is my favorite. Although I love dry wall screws so I wind up using a lot of Philips.

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#7 posted 03-17-2012 01:43 AM

Square drives that I have used from the BORG are stainless steel and they strip out if I look at them funny. Have tried different bits and they still strip out. The Torx screws almost never strip out. I use what i have and can get at the lowest price but still retain quality.

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#8 posted 03-17-2012 01:50 AM

Once having tried square drive, I can’t go back.

A piece of history (right or wrong, I would certainly take the blame if wrong) from my now deceased mechanical engineer father: Torx was apparently devised for and became popular over square drive in industrial assembly line work by reducing cam-out, making initial automated engagement more error free, and reducing tool wear (increased contact surface compared to square drive).

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#9 posted 03-17-2012 02:00 AM

I’m reaching here also, but weren’t Torx originally proprietary, and the drivers only available to manufacturers, making them very difficult for consumers to mess with.

I like square drive myself, although I do use a lot of dry wall screws on jigs and such.

-- John

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#10 posted 03-17-2012 02:08 AM

I prefer square drives too. Spax offers the option of using a phillips or square drive in their Combo recess design. Of course, for my finer work, I try to avoid mechanical fasteners of any type.

-- Paul, Clinton, NC

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#11 posted 03-17-2012 02:15 AM

John, you make a good point. Since Torx is a fairly recent invention (late ‘60’s), you’d have to think that the reasons people adopted it are a composite of both technical and ever more important marketing angles.

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#12 posted 03-17-2012 02:16 AM

My favorite is torx GRK screws. They NEVER slip in the head. Sometimes the bit get locked into the head I have to wiggle it loose.

A recent forum topic on them

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#13 posted 03-17-2012 02:34 AM

+1 torx with GRK’s

totally worth it.

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#14 posted 03-17-2012 02:40 AM

I’ve used Phillips for years, but the more I try square drive, the more I like them.
And, like John, I use drywall screws for jigs, or throw away items made from soft wood.
Good topic Rich.

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#15 posted 03-17-2012 02:41 AM

Square drive. Partly out of patriotism that it was invented by a Canadian (Robertson).

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