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moshel

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06-08-2008 02:06 PM

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Hi,

This might be a silly question, but I couldn’t figure out how to get this from sketchup.
After I do a design, I would like to see all groups (or components – I ususally work with groups) nicely exploded, preferably aligned the same way with dimensions so I can see what I need to cut. Is there a script or something that does this? I have found a script that outputs CSV for cutlist, but I prefer to stay inside sketchup. I almost never work with plates, so cutlist is not that good for me.

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Brad_Nailor

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#1 posted 06-08-2008 02:22 PM

There is a ruby script on smustard that will explode things. I have never used it, but I hear it works ok if you like to group all your elements. I don’t know if there is any that will generate cut lists or even a parts list based on groups. That would be a good idea for a ruby script….List all the grouped elements and their dimensions.

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#2 posted 06-08-2008 03:39 PM

Hi Moshe,

I may have something which you will find very interesting. I’ve been working with Michael Robinson who wrote or maintains the current CutListAndMaterials sketchup plugin which may be what you are referencing when you say there is a script which produces CSV output for CutlistPlus. I am working on extending this script to provide detailed layouts and cutting lists using only the Sketchup script ( which we are now just calling CutList). It’s almost ready for trialling. It layouts both boards and sheet goods ( it knows which is which using keywords in the material name) and has several options for laying out ( either stuff everything as close as possible or try to line up the cuts to make it easier for taking it to the shop). The cutlist has options for showing all parts or all parts grouped by size or name.

I’m nearly finished with the program, it’s already on a 2nd or 3rd draft, then it will go through some trialling with a pro instructor who uses sketchup for some feedback and then i intend to unleash it on the Lumberjocks community for more feedback. It’s open source and will probably do a lot of what the $$ programs do. I fully intend to support/extend it as needed to make it as useful as possible.

There is no intention of charging for it. I feel that anything that saves time and especially wood resources is good for the entire planet. I’m also more interested in having the community contribute to making this a great plugin.

There is no exploded view option but that is something I have also been thinking about. I don’t think it’s that hard. I believe the script on smustard has a cost.

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Slacker

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#3 posted 06-09-2008 12:37 AM

Looking forward to testing the application… If I am working with sheet goods, I usually plug in the cut list to another program I have that lays out the cuts on plywood in the most cost-effective way.

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Mark Shymanski

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#4 posted 06-09-2008 06:05 AM

Steve, its great to hear that you are working on this application. I look forward to seeing it!

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#5 posted 06-09-2008 10:59 AM

Steve,
How long do you think it will be before we can try it out for you? I’m looking forward to seeing it.

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#6 posted 06-09-2008 03:00 PM

I’m glad there’s some good interest in this. It’s probably just a few weeks away from a version I would call complete but it’s completely working now but has some minor features which are not implemented and some inconveniences like the layout screen can’t really be printed (other than taking a snapshot of the window). I don’t like that and that will probably get replaced in the ‘released’ version.

However, it’s probably just a few weeks away from a version I would be ok with having people taking a preliminary copy and getting some feedback.

In the meantime, here’s some screenshots. It has the look and feel of some old Woodsmith magazines when they still produced cutlists and cutting diagrams. I hope they don’t mind the similarity. It’s a compliment really.




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#7 posted 06-09-2008 03:26 PM

Steve,

Awesome!
It would be cool to be able to export the table to excel, also can you add feature where you indicate the percentage of overage you want and then it adds that to column view along with a total board feet.

Keep on truckin!

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#8 posted 06-09-2008 05:04 PM

How awesome is that!! Steve you are the bomb!

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#9 posted 06-10-2008 03:00 AM

Coochiemama… I like that.

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daltxguy

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#10 posted 06-10-2008 02:11 PM

Hi gizmo,

The plugin already supports cutlist output to csv format which you can import to excel. It also has a csv format output option which is compatible with CutlistPlus for those who use it. These already exist in the current version.

The screenshot obviously doesn’t show everything, but on the cutlist output page, total bd ft is also given.As well, a total bd ft broken down by material is produced. Boards, sheet parts and hardware are all shown in separate lists. Models created in metric measurements is also supported for both cutlists and now layout.

You’ll have to explain more about overage, so I know if that maps to an existing feature. You can specify the nominal board thicknesses you want to use and it will round up each piece to the closest dimension and figure that into the total board feet if you choose that option. These features already exist in the current v3.3 which can still get on the sketchup ruby-api newsgroup CutListAndMaterials 3.3

Enjoy the current version until then! Thanks for all the comments.

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#11 posted 06-11-2008 12:20 AM

Looks great! You have a bunch of willing beta testers here.

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#12 posted 06-11-2008 01:01 AM

Great bit of know how Jocks.

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#13 posted 06-11-2008 02:32 AM

Man, after that I’d hate to show you what I work from when I’m building an original piece. Recently I went through a stack of “plans” to file them for future use and I couldn’t make heads or tails out of some of them. Finally did, though. It’s probably a pretty sorry state of affairs, but I usually build the piece till it suits me, then do a takeoff for future builds. bbqKing

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#14 posted 06-19-2008 01:00 PM

Nothing wrong with that bbqking. Honestly, my plans are all over the place, too. Some are full sized drawings, some are back of the envelope and some don’t exist at all as I made it up as I went along. I might scribble some notes in case I might want to make it again but usually, they’re a load of crap when I read them later or I can’t remember how I managed to cut some of the pieces out.

I think using Sketchup is good for repeated designs or for visualizing for some people or for sharing ideas. The layout stuff is useful to give you an idea of how much material you need and how to go about getting those parts out – perhaps in helping to cost materials. Honestly, it assumes perfect lumber, which is rare, so it can only be used as an aid to avoid brain hurt and to get to doing the fun stuff quicker.

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Brad_Nailor

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#15 posted 06-19-2008 01:34 PM

Steve put me on the beta testing list…that ruby looks awesome! I always underestimate materials for my projects and like you said there isn’t any perfect wood, but at least this would give me more confidence that I have enough material. I love automated cultists and the board layout is great too. Does it take into account the saw kerf when it’s laying out the pieces?

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