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SakeenaBlue

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03-15-2012 12:36 AM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw help review

So I got my little harbor freight guy working enough to cut pen blanks basically. Nothing more.
I have been reading reviews etc and seems that Jet, Grizzly, and Rikon are the top 3 for 14” ers.
I would appreciate any feedback. I have found them within $100 in comparison. But I only want to make this purchase once! I am getting VERY frustrated by having my shop time cut short because of a freakin bandsaw!
Holla at me!

-- Nancy


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#1 posted 03-15-2012 12:49 AM

Nancy,

I may catch some flack, but this http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/band-saws/14-inch-four-speed-woodworking-bandsaw-67595.html is a really good saw. I hae had mine about 5 years and haven’t had a problem or found it lacking yet. Just put the right sharp blade on and go to work. With a 20% off coupon, you’re talking under $300. If mine lasted, yours will. Plus, it’s built i Taiwan, not China.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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#2 posted 03-15-2012 12:53 AM

I have the Grizzly GO 513X love that saw 2hp cast iron wheels cast iron trunion. Well made great guide bearing set.Just a good saw all around. sorry I have should have read your post more closely my saw is 17” Its been a long day!

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#3 posted 03-15-2012 12:55 AM

I don’t know about “flack” fussy.
I have read so much GOOD about the harbour freight 14” with an addition of a riser block, that it was the saw I was saving up for.
The only thing hat kept me from buying it was I wound up building my own. Well, that and the fact that something always came up before I could get enough cash into my band saw fund to actually buy it.
I have read review after review after review though, and if you are to believe what other’s have written, the Harbour Freight saw is one of those rare diamonds in the rough that is the right saw for the right price.

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#4 posted 03-15-2012 12:56 AM

If I were you (and I have been in the same boat), I’d buy the Rikon 10-325. It has the best frame of the three, iron wheels, and also comes standard capable of cutting 13” vertical stock (not that you need that, but you never know). The other 2 max at 6 or 7 inches (I think) without the use of a riser block kit. Once that kit is added, you need new blades and it still may flex and move some when you’re putting tension on the blade.

Yes, it is an expensive 14” saw (on sale right now for about $799), but you probably won’t need to do anything else to it besides buying an upgraded fence (you’d do that for all three of your choices anyways), maybe new guides (the other two as well), and new blades along the way.

Grizzly does make a great saw as well… which would be my second choice out of the ones you list. If you don’t need the vertical height of the Rikon or don’t plan on messing with riser blocks, it’s probably the best bang for your buck. Nothing wrong with Jet, it’s just with Grizzly you can get a lot of saw for the money. Plus, Grizzly support is supposed to be pretty good now (it’s been iffy for the past decade with ups and downs)

In the end, you’re going to be happy with any of these saws. They’re three great companies and you can’t go wrong with any of them… unless you figure out you need something bigger.

Also, Harbor Freight has a pretty respectable 14” saw if you’re not looking for every single feature under the sun. It works well enough for what it is and is also on sale right now.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#5 posted 03-15-2012 06:43 AM

If you can waite 1 more month, Delta starts shipping out it’s 14” bandsaw in mid April. This is the one that everyone has copied over the years and charges more for it. Delta has kept the price at $749 and still added more features.

-- If the old masters had power tools, they would have used them. So get off your damn High Horse.

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#6 posted 03-15-2012 07:05 AM

ok i am going to play devils advocate here for a few replys I am asking why only a 14 inch i have a 14 inch and i want a bigger band saw i want the laguna it has a huge re saw capability no 14 inch saw has even with a riser block in all likely hood i will buy a riser block long before I buy a new saw but we all dream I have the jet and there is a nice review on it by Daniel on our website it is well worth the read but after living with it for a few years I have to say i want a 19 inch or larger i have even looked into huge ones for king sized resawuing if all your going to ever do is make pens then 14 will work forever but if you decide to make big projects and want to re saw then you will want bigger especialy if your only going to buy once

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#7 posted 03-15-2012 09:58 AM

I replied back to each of you but my computer decided to restart so I lost it!!! arrrrgh!
So to sum it up, thank you for your responses, and I think Doss you are right, in the end they are all pretty good. I am just wanting the best bang for my buck!
I currently make a lot of pens…easy to sell…but I also make bowls and want to make hollow forms and boxes…I have purchased the blanks rounded. But if I get some wood from a felled tree will I need something bigger than a 14” to round it up…realizing of course the size of the tree! I just don’t want to spend a lot of money and go ding dang it I need a bigger saw! I should have spent $300 more!!!
Your feed back and experience is appreciated!!!
Nancy

-- Nancy

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#8 posted 03-15-2012 12:36 PM

The bandsaws mentioned above are all great ideas. Another thought, have you looked at used models on Craigslist? There are some good finds to be found.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#9 posted 03-15-2012 03:14 PM

Thanks Nancy.

You can keep your smaller HF saw around to work on smaller items. So, buying a larger saw than you think you need may be a great option. You’ll have the best of both worlds!

I’m responding with a few more thoughts here. Remember that just because the saw is technically larger (such as a 16, 17, 18, or 19” BS) than a 14”, that it doesn’t necessarily have a higher vertical clearance (table to upper guides). 14” is in reference to the blade to spine clearance which is the throat (and also the wheel size coincidentally in most cases).

If you don’ think you need the extra vertical clearance height (more than 6 or 7”), get the Grizzly. If you think you might, get the Rikon (its spine is better (less flex and hassle) IMO than a 14” standard bandsaw with riser block). Whichever 14” you pick, make sure it has at least 1 HP (1.5 would be better in most cases).

If there is an off chance that you think you may be working with larger chunks of wood frequently or dense/hard wood, then a 17, 18, or 19” bandsaw is probably going to be what you’re looking for not only because of the throat or vertical clearance, but the cutting power from all that wheel mass (coupled usually with more HP) PLUS the bigger table make life easier. The big table is great for working with larger pieces and can’t be overlooked. With the big saws though, comes the need usually for 220V power and floor and vertical space… so keep that in mind too.

Those are a lot of things to think about. Think about the things that frustrate you now with your current saw and then try to visualize how the new saws improve upon your current limitations. The one that checks off the most boxes (or the most important boxes) wins.

Craiglist and eBay can be a great place to pick up a good saw. Usually, you’ll see on eBay that the larger saws are local pickup only which reduces the amount of bidders and opens up a great opportunity to pick up a top-end saw for a bargain price. And Craigslist is, well, Craigslist. :-)

Let us know which one you pick.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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#10 posted 03-18-2012 07:31 AM

ya know i just got a couple of press releases on the delta from paul at delta I think you might want to see these and i would not buy a grizley jut too many hoorer stories of bad service

DELTA® INTRODUCES NEW 14”, 1 HP STEEL FRAME BAND SAW

State-of-the-Art Features That Woodworkers Will Appreciate

Anderson, SC, February 17, 2012 – DELTA® Power Equipment Corporation, a designer and manufacturer of benchtop and stationary woodworking machinery and dust management systems, is introducing an all new 14-inch, 1 HP Steel Frame Band Saw, Model 28-400. This new Delta® band saw has been designed for today’s serious woodworker.

The new 28-400 features a 1 HP, 115V/230V, 1 phase TEFC motor with 2 speeds (1,620 FPM and 3,340 FPM). It has a heavy duty steel frame design that reduces flexing. And it comes with a superior finish and heavy duty trunnion table support for long-lasting durability.

The new Delta® 14-inch Band Saw has a two-speed pulley with easy tensioning system to make speed changes simple, and its durable aluminum, rubber-tired upper and lower 9-spoke wheels are precision balanced for superior blade tracking. Its poly V-belt drive provides for smooth operation, consistent power transfer and will not “take a set” when left under tension.

Its smooth ball bearing upper and lower guides ensure superior blade accuracy and performance with a maximum cutting capacity of up to 13-5/8 inches wide x 6 inches thick. The oversized 15-3/4 inch x 18-7/8 inch precision ground cast iron table tilts 3° left to 45° right with a positive stop at 90°. It has a standard size t-slot that accepts all 3/4 inch x 3/8 inch miter gauges.

It is designed with a large table insert for visibility when changing lower guide settings, has a dust brush on the lower wheel to keep the blade clean during use, and a special knob design on upper and lower doors helps prevent injury by forcing the doors completely open or securely closed.

The 28-400 includes a 4 inch integral dust port, steel stand and a 93-1/2 inch wood-cutting blade. Available accessories, sold separately, include a Deluxe Miter Gauge, Model 34-928 and a Magnetic Work Light, Model 25-870. It will also accept the 12 inch and 24 inch fence systems, Models 28-848 and 28-856.

The new Delta® 14-inch, 1 HP Steel Frame Band Saw will be available at dealers in March 2012 and has a suggested retail price of $629.99, and is backed by a Five-Year Warranty. For more information, customers can visit www.DeltaMachinery.com or write to customercare@dpec-na.com. Join DELTA® on Facebook at www.facebook.com/deltamachinery .

-more-

DELTA® 14-inch, 1 HP Band Saw – page two

About DELTA®
Based in Anderson, South Carolina, DELTA® Power Equipment Corporation designs and manufactures stationary and benchtop woodworking machinery and dust management systems, and related accessories for professional woodworkers. DELTA® Power Equipment Corporation is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Chang Type Industrial Co. Ltd., a Taiwan-based manufacturing company (Taiwan Stock Exchange symbol: 1541.tw),

i was told this is the first of 4 new saws and the rest will be bigger they are talking best in class resaw to rival rikon

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