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RandyM68

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774 days ago

I’m sure you’ve all noticed the decline in the intelligence of our children. I’m not talking about knowlege of geography, politics, or advanced sciences, just the basics like making change for a dollar, or balancing a check book. In the rest of the industrial world, the kids seem to be getting smarter. Ours, not so much. Do you think it is some sort of reversal in the evolution of the collective American I’Q? Could it be some thing in the food or water? Or could this guy be right? What do you think?


-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.


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dakremer

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#1 posted 774 days ago

Read the book Outliars. Will give you part of the reason…..

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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dakremer

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#2 posted 774 days ago

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not worth it….need to get my zen back

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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devann

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#3 posted 774 days ago

May I recommend an author? Dr. Thomas Sowell. He has written many books and articles about education, economics, & intellectuals. He does a pretty good job of explaining things that many people have difficulty understanding.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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patron

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#4 posted 774 days ago

not sure where this fits
some years ago
i read an article
about the first grade test
for kids in japan

they had to fold (origami)
a 1 inch square of paper
into a crane (the bird)
standing on 1 leg

for me it is sad to see that most of our kids
want to drop out of school

i think it is partially from not really being taught
to think
but just to memorize

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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BobM001

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#5 posted 774 days ago

I too HIGHLY recommend the writings of Dr.Thomas Sowell.

-- OK, who's the wise guy that shrunk the plywood?

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HorizontalMike

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#6 posted 774 days ago

Well you get what you pay for.

House GOP Looks to Slash Education Spending
The measure, which would continue federal funding for rest of the fiscal year, takes aim at some programs that were previously considered untouchable, including special education spending and Pell Grants to help low-and-moderate income students pay for college.

Republicans Cut Education Funds To Cause Public Schools to Fail (Click this link if video fails)

How many ways can Republican subsidize corporations? Let us count the ways.

The privatization of schools, Medicare, Social Security, Healthcare, Military contractors or mercenaries, and municipal water systems are all being considered as cash cows for privatization to the corporate contributors to the GOP.

How do we spell “corporate welfare? CHA C-H-I-N-G!!!

“Let’s privatize our school systems”, say Republicans. “Charter schools are better”.

This is a lie. But many people are buying in to the idea of more corporate welfare and less “socialism”.

The GOP’s plan? Cut funds for public education, causing less money to be available for teachers and school district, wait for them to fail, then point to failed school system and say:

“SEE! They aren’t doing a good job at teaching our kids. That’s why we need business to take it over.”

When you look at the statistics, New York is rated number one in education.

There’s a correlation between salaries of teachers and results. Maybe this is why Texas has the worst High School graduation rate of all the 50 States.
Yes, New York pays more in taxes, but we get a lot for what we pay. Progressive states also pay much of the Red States’ share for education revenues that the Federal Government gives them.

Just because Red States don’t charge corporations as much in taxes, doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t pay for those tax breaks the GOP governors don’t collect in revenues.

So, the GOP’s plan to privatize education is one that works to the benefit of the private sector, but not one that benefits our kids and their readiness to compete in a global economy.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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RandyM68

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#7 posted 774 days ago


-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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RandyM68

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#8 posted 774 days ago


-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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casual1carpenter

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#9 posted 774 days ago

I might get beat up for this but I feel that lots of tenured teachers become complacent, they present a lesson plan by reciting some facts or statements and moving on. Children need to be taught to think and teachers need to be held accountable for the children’s educational development. School Administrators need to be held accountable for the teachers, aids, etc that they are supposed to be supervising.

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RandyM68

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#10 posted 774 days ago

You are exactly right, Casual. Anytime someone can not be fired just because of incompetence, they have no incentive to exert any effort. Most government jobs are like that. You have to really try hard to get yourself fired. Even when an employee can’t do the job, they’ll will just move them somewhere that they can’t do as much damage.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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RockyTopScott

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#11 posted 774 days ago

Darrell…..I try to read Thomas Sowell each week. The man is brilliant

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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Howie

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#12 posted 774 days ago

Personally I think the teachers could do a better job if the Government would stay out of the classroom. The teachers can’t even raise their voice to little Johnny/JoAnna without either getting scalped by the system or the parents. I can’t fault any teachers, good or bad, because I couldn’t put up with the little beggars. BTW, there is 4 teachers in my family and the things they tell, I know I wouldn’t make it.

-- Life is good.

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 774 days ago

RandyM68,
I see you want to spend your time ranting and raving about how badly the Texas school system failed you. We all actually agree on that. It is obvious you have come from a failed school and appear to want to share/spread the pain.

So just what are YOU proposing to FIX it Randy?

Cut even more funding for schools so that school buildings fall into further disrepair?

Cut off air-conditioning to these Deep South schools so the kids can sit and sweat in the classroom instead of learning?

Cut teacher salaries so that fewer teachers will even choose teaching as a career?

Cut MORE teachers and load up MORE kids in a class?

Cut even more funding for buying textbooks and technology?

OR, are you just busying building one of Patron’s soapboxes? Since you have a hard time following, I posted this in two threads for you.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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chrisstef

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#14 posted 774 days ago

they see me trollin … they hatin

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RandyM68

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#15 posted 774 days ago

The problems do start long before kindergarden. Most parents don’t teach their kid’s anything at home. Children get to school with having been taught their own name or adress, how to count to ten, or how to sit down and shut up. My wife works in an elementary school so I hear about the little idiots all the time. I know I couldn’t put up with them. The parents are even worse. I do not blame the whole problem on the teachers, they are handicapped from the start. That doesn’t excuse them totally either.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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