Porter Cable PC8270TS or Rigid R4512 or Craftsman?

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Forum topic by pop_i74 posted 03-11-2012 01:23 AM 3336 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-11-2012 01:23 AM

Let be known up front that I’m certainly not a pro,but now that I’m retired I’ve decided to get more involved into the woodworking world. About 12 years ago I built a 12’x20’ shed (120v service) dedicated specifically for storage,but now I’m turning it into a dedicated woodworking shop where space is at a minimum, and so is my budget. Currently, I only have a miter saw,a bench type drill press,a Bosch 1617EVS router combo, and a few hand tools. Folks, I’m looking to expand my collection of power tools, mainly, a new table saw. I’ve been looking at table saw reviews until my eyes roll back into my head. Since my space is limited, I’m leaning toward a hybrid. I’m thinking Craftsman,Rigid,or Porter Cable. Lowes has the Porter Cable lowered to $549 right now and they’re just down the road a bit. HD is just up the road as well, but they don’t stock the R4512; I’d have to travel about 60 mi to pick one up. I wouldn’t have to travel too far to pick up the Craftsman at Sears, but it’s a bit more pricey than the other 2. As you might have gathered, I’m trying to avoid the charges of having it shipped to the house. As I’ve read thru a bunch of reviews on these 3 that I’ve mentioned, there seems to be varied opinions on one or the other, so I guess it’s all a crap shoot. Oh, man! What to do , What to do?

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#1 posted 03-11-2012 02:55 AM

Ridgid, hands down.

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#2 posted 03-11-2012 02:59 AM

My take is that you want a cast iron top, a belt drive induction motor, and something with wheels since all these saws have those attributes.

I have the Craftsman 21833 which is the twin brother of the Ridgid 4512. I have had my saw for 2 years and got it on sale at Sears for Father’s day for $409.00 I think they frequently sell this saw for $499. The Ridgid, as far as I can tell is the identical same saw in orange paint. It does normally sell for around $500 to $550, I think, but Ridgid has a lifetime service agreement from what I have heard.

I like the Craftsman/Ridgid saw pretty well, it runs smooth and quiet, and the fence is better than the Porter Cable in my opinion. I have heard the PC saw has a plastic gear inside for the blade elevating mechanism. For the better fence and not having the plastic gear, I think the Craftsman/Ridgid is a better saw. The warranty, probably makes the Ridgid the better value overall.

Having said all that, I wish I had waited and gotten the $1000 Steel City Hybrid with the cabinet mounted trunnions. A better system and something none of the saws above have. I have to take my saw apart and re-align the blade to the miter slot about every 3 months or so. A PITA.

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#3 posted 03-11-2012 03:33 AM

The PCB270TS has a plastic elevation gear that would be far more robust if it were metal. It also has the weakest fence in this price range, so I’d eliminate since there are what I view as better choices in the price range. The R4512 and Cman 21833 are both made by Dayton and are essentially the same saw….same as the Dayton 4KXD1. Of those saws, I’d buy the better deal.

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#4 posted 03-11-2012 03:46 AM

i have the rigid knotscott mentions the plastic gear steered me away form the PorterCable.for a beginner/hobbyist the R4512 has been shop is small 12×14 and being able to move the saw when needed has been very valuable.

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#5 posted 03-11-2012 04:54 AM

I have the PC and have had very good luck with it. I have not found the fence to be a problem. That being said, I am not sure I would have bought it if I had know in advance that the gears were plastic.

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#6 posted 03-11-2012 04:55 AM

Thanks for all the info. I do believe it’s going to be the R4512. Now I need to find a router extension table for it.
Any help appreciated.
Thans again

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