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Forum topic by Martyroc posted 03-09-2012 05:00 AM 1864 views 0 times favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-09-2012 05:00 AM

Fellow Lumberjocks, I only have one question today, What is going on here? In the last week, I have seen people complaining about this LJ member or that LJ member, then another blocking this one or that one, then “I am leaving”. “I got a problem with you or him or her”, “I don’t like this or that or something else”. “Why do we have so many members with 0 contributions?”.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but really folks, this behavior is reminiscent of High School kids. The fact of the matter is, not everybody is going to like everybody else, and yes you might have a problem with this one or that one, or his post or her post, or lack there of, but didn’t we all sign up for the same reason? I joined a short while ago after perusing the site for a year or two, some of the projects posted are incredible, the blogs are mostly informative, the questions and answers I and others get from the forums are in my opinion sometimes you could not put a price on. If your a member I expect a contribution every now and again, maybe a project, at least once a year, a “Nice job” or, ” “Here is what I would have done”. I understand the need to vent every now and then and get to know your fellow woodworker a little better. I can’t be at the hardware store or the coffee shop, with every member,( some of whom I friended because I like there opinion, or quotes or questions, comments etc, etc…), so the next best thing is interacting with you online.

I know this post doesn’t change anything but I wanted to vent a little, its upsetting. I have found a group of guys that I can relate to, that sometimes don’t realize they are working on something since early morning and its now after midnight, that’s my crowd.

There is my venting, if you think I should shut up that’s your opinion, I respect it, I may not like it but that’s nobody else’s problem, and I am not going to run away because someone has a problem with my posts or projects, I am also not going to tell you to F off.

Nasty comments are like rain, let it roll off, and wait a little and it will dry up. lets all do what we signed up for, with an off topic post every now and then, to get to know your fellow woodworker better.

-- Martin ....always count the number of fingers you have before, and after using the saw.

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#1 posted 03-09-2012 05:06 AM

I think it’s best to just ignore the drama, it feeds on attention.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#2 posted 03-09-2012 05:11 AM

Good Point Russ, I just needed to vent, I am sure Martin didn’t have that stuff in mind when he created the site.

-- Martin ....always count the number of fingers you have before, and after using the saw.

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#3 posted 03-09-2012 05:12 AM


-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#4 posted 03-09-2012 05:25 AM

Good post I dont like drama eather get enough of that on fb.

-- Dave, Kelso, Washington

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#5 posted 03-09-2012 05:29 AM

Any posts in particular? I’ve haven’t seen this type of post yet on this site but would like to just get a reference to those I need to steer clear of; it’s really too bad. Tell them if they keep it up wood makes the best caskets…

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#6 posted 03-09-2012 05:33 AM

I appreciate your attitude and your opinion, Martin. Thank you for posting this. Something we all need to remember.

-- If I could just get this whole "Time/Money" problem figured out...

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#7 posted 03-09-2012 06:28 AM

Ha, welcome to LJ’s Martin! 99% awesome woodworking and helpful WW’s; 1% petty conflicts and hurt feelings. Try to ignore the 1%. The drama has actually gotten better over the last year…

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#8 posted 03-09-2012 06:36 AM

There are definitely too many drama queens around here. They say things here that they wouldn’t dare say in real life. They’ll start a forum with some obnoxious comment, and then block anyone who disagrees with them. If you start your own thread, they will come on to it and start a fight. When you make them look stupid, and they can’t block you, they cry to Martin and get the thread removed. Then they’ll keep whining until they get you suspended. I got caught up with one of those idiots, and she tattled on me. I’ve only been a member for 47 days, the last 30 of which I was on suspension. I really enjoy this website. Almost everyone here seems like really nice people. I have learned alot from many of you, but I was probably better off just lurking. I have gotten a lot of inspiration from just looking at projects, and many of the blogs and forums are very informative. I would like to get to know all of you better, but some people just bring out the redneck in me. I’ll miss you when I get kicked out again.

-- I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. I'm sorry,thanks.

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#9 posted 03-09-2012 08:11 AM

Well said, however we go thru this about once every six weeks. People come and go and life goes on(until 12-21-12 so they say)

-- Life is good.

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#10 posted 03-09-2012 12:28 PM

I have been using a “High Tech” body spray for years. It contains silicone, this way the sh!# just rools off!

Generally, If I ain’t got nothing GOOD to say, then I got NOTHING to say! An occasional light hearted jab at someone to keep things funny! Once in a while, you need to preface a post with IMHO. Oh, that reminds me.

What do “Ten Gallon Hats” & opinions have in common?
Any A$$h#!%, can have one!
(No offense intended to anyone one that sports or admires fine western apparrel. Hope I don’t get suspended!!!)

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#11 posted 03-09-2012 01:29 PM

@Marty SAID: ”...If your a member I expect a contribution every now and again, maybe a project, at least once a year, a “Nice job” or, ” “Here is what I would have done”…”

EXACTLY! How true this concept/expectation is and should be!

There are so many ZEROs out there it is nuts! Some of these “zeros” may try and post a picture of a purported “project” with No explanation, or details of construction, No images OF the construction,etc. just to try and make it look like they actually do WW when it is obvious that they have not.

As in zero, I define it as:
No actual picture of their face
No profile
No Location
No Workshop
No Blog
No Reviews

Do notice that this has nothing to do with how long someone has been on LJs and has nothing to do with the numbers of posts someone has made.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#12 posted 03-09-2012 02:20 PM

I actually just ran into a guy the other day (bought a mortiser off him) that knows the site, signed up, but never posted anything because he’s ‘not a posting kind of guy’. I guess I can understand that.. and there are some mechanics to the site that function when you’re a member (even if you haven’t posted anything).. I just don’t think we should be dismissive of all the ‘zeroes’

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#13 posted 03-09-2012 02:30 PM

To a point I agree Dan. But consider if everyone NEVER posted but just hung out in the background. Then there would be NO site to visit. IMO, it is part of the social contract to participate in the sharing of WW information and to not just be a WW-ing leach on LJs. I know that sounds strong, but please understand basis for that position.

We cannot always expect that it will always be the “OTHER” guy who comes up with the needed information. If no one shared, there would be no information to data mine.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#14 posted 03-09-2012 02:37 PM

Oh no, I agree totally. In any community, if there are too many consumers without enough producers, it will fail. That’s one of the reasons I love the # of contribs next to each person’s name on each comment

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#15 posted 03-09-2012 03:51 PM

Judging by the number of posts you have made since you have became a member, you should by now have a fairly good idea of the type and kind of members to avoid and those that share the passion without the drama.
What goes on here is just a small example of what our society has become. So like the real world you learn who you want to deal with and those that aren’t worth dealing with. While I don’t favor the block button, I believe that there are those who will use it like a sharp stick in the eye.

I don’t use the buddy list as I feel you will know who are buddies that you respect and know you and share that same respect. This also eliminates those who may use the buddy list to determine if your on their side or not in order to know who to offend and not offend.

There are many here that I have a great respect for as a member and respect myself for the same reasons. Those are the individuals that truly make lumber jocks what it should be.

By the way welcome to lumber jocks.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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