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Forum topic by saunderl posted 03-04-2012 10:09 PM 3039 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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saunderl

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03-04-2012 10:09 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw upgrade cost

I have a craftsman 10” contractors saw. I’ve upgraded it with a add-on wing router table.

Now, I’ve finally gotten tired with the slight miss-alignment between the blade and the miter guage slots. So I thought I would upgrade with a PALS CTS alignment kit.

But I also HATE my rip fence. (The Align-a-rip) so I was thinking of getting a shopfox or Vega fence. And if I do that I might as well get a link belt as well.

So, now I spent maybe $300 – $350 dollars.

Hmmm, I can squeak out enough in my budget to buy a new Grizzly, but is it worth it:

A G1023RLWX

Besides, I’ve sunk so much into this saw with the cost of the router table …. should I?


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#1 posted 03-04-2012 10:22 PM

Misalignment between the miter slot and blade? You have a miter gage, right? And it adjusts? Any error which is consistent can be addressed via compensating with the miter gage (and the fence alignment when ripping). If you want more size and power then go for it, but don’t jump solely for the sake of errors that you can correct with an extra step in your set up or with a shop-made sled.

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#2 posted 03-04-2012 10:35 PM

I sold my old contractors saw for a hybrid. My primary concern was dust collection. No matter what I did that old saw blew dust everywhere. My next concern was cabinet mounted trunions. That makes alignmet easy.

The next most important thing is to use whatever stock blade that came with it for ripping rough lumber and other crap. Get yourself a good premimum blade like a WW2 or Fusion. Cast iron wings are good,however you may want to mount that router back in. Watch what side the access to the cabinet is placed. That may determine if you mount the router to the right or left.

Power is another consideration. More is better if the budget allows, however you will need 220v to the saw. If you go with 120v then use the thin kerf blades.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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#3 posted 03-04-2012 10:43 PM

upgrade definitely

that grizz will give you untold pleasure
fixing (again) the craftsman
will just put you where you already are

if you have the room
keep it too
and fix it
little by little

never hurts to have a spare
(like for dado’s)

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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saunderl

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#4 posted 03-04-2012 10:45 PM

Your both right about the alignment. I’ve tried the “official” way of alligning the trunions – with a hammer, but I’ve never had any success. Now with $20, I can get the PALS CTS alignment kit, I should be able to align it properly.

My big issue, I guess is the rip fence and … now that you mentioned it – the power is a little low, but I could live with it – at least for a while.

My worry is that I’m outgrowing this saw and that I need a bigger one. How can you tell if its just some of the pain points like the rip fence that are bothering me or that I really am outgrowing this saw?

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#5 posted 03-04-2012 10:52 PM

you are outgrowing the saw

take your word for it

the difference in contractor and cabinet
is like old car to new truck

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Ben

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#6 posted 03-04-2012 10:53 PM

I’m with Patron on this one. If you can afford that Grizzly, GET IT. I also agree that if you have room, keep it as a second saw, set up for other things.

-- Welcome to downtown Coolsville, Population: US! --Hogarth Hughes

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TechRedneck

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#7 posted 03-04-2012 10:57 PM

I upgraded a couple years ago. If I were to do it again I would get a saw with more power. Reason is, I buy a lot of rough cut 4/4 and 5/4 lumber. My saw does ok ripping long boards, however the stock fence is .. Well.. Diffacult on boards longer than 3’ . For 90% of the work you do a 120v will do fine, but get a couple hundred feet of cherry and you are pushing the limits at 4/4 or better stock. You need everything dialed in. If a board releases tension during the cut, it boggs the motor.

I really want that Incra TS fence!

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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#8 posted 03-04-2012 11:01 PM

If I were spending that much money, I’d be looking into a different saw that has most of those upgrades. Something like a new cabinet saw is well worth it IMO if it’s in the budget. You can sell your current saw and put the proceeds toward a better one.

What you’ve got will cut wood and you can make good stuff, but the step up is pretty significant. You won’t believe the difference in a heavier more powerful with a Biese clone fence….simply a pleasure to use and won’t struggle with anything you throw at it.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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saunderl

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#9 posted 03-05-2012 12:05 AM

I think you have been saying just what I’ve known in my heart.

It looks like a nice day-long road trip to Springfield MO is in my future (After I get my tax return)

Thanks for backing up my thinking. (I WILL keep the old saw – for just the reasons you state – plus I’m never comfortable selling my old stuff)

Thanks again.

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