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Forum topic by Jeremiah posted 02-29-2012 02:54 PM 1854 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jeremiah

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02-29-2012 02:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw rant fence

sorry to vent but this drives me nuts;

After market fences are priced INSANE!

to get a 52” Biesemeyer fence, ill need to shell out well over $450, with shipping. Yet i can get one ON a saw that costs $1400.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-3HP-220V-Cabinet-Table-Saw-with-Long-Rails-Riving-Knife/G0691

There is NO way you can tell me that 30% of the actual cost of the saw is in the fence!

And yet I’m stuck getting one. The delta cabinet saw i have is from the early 80’s and has a God-awful fence.

Ok, I’m done….. just had to get this off my chest.

-JD


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knotscott

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#1 posted 02-29-2012 03:04 PM

You’re not along, but options are usually cheaper when purchased as stock items. An aftermarket Biese will run you ~ $450, but there are others for less….the 52” Shop Fox Classic is ~ $350 delivered. There are also good alternatives from HTC (same as the Jet Xacta II and PM fence), Vega, Steel City, and Saw Stop. You could even buy a Delta T2 and add your own longer rails from a steel supply house.

....or….you could buy a used saw with a stock Biese fence. Swap the fences, and resell the used saw with your old fence….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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PurpLev

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#2 posted 02-29-2012 03:26 PM

yup – so now you see that when you buy a new saw you are practically getting the fence for free!

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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superstretch

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#3 posted 02-29-2012 03:30 PM

I definitely agree with you. The most reasonable is the Delta T2 (great fence, btw). I got one on ebay for $172, free expedited shipping :)

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#4 posted 02-29-2012 03:39 PM

I agree that prices are too high.
Here's the 50 for $389 shipped.

Even worse IMHO, are parallel bar clamps.

And+1 on the T2 fence comments. I have one and love it.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#5 posted 02-29-2012 03:49 PM

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#6 posted 02-29-2012 03:59 PM

Check on ebay, last week a 52” unifence was listed for $125. I see good fences listed on there regularly.

-- If the old masters had power tools, they would have used them. So get off your damn High Horse.

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Bill White

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#7 posted 02-29-2012 04:11 PM

My Shop Fox has been a great fence. Stays put and adjusted.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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#8 posted 02-29-2012 04:49 PM

I’ve never been in the market for an after market fence. I’m pretty happy with the one that came with my saw, originally.

However, if I needed an after market fence that was going to cost $300+ I know I would be buying an Incra positioning system. I have one on my router table and I know it is so much more than just a fence.

I don’t understand $450 for a fence that is not an incra positioning system.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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longgone

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#9 posted 02-29-2012 05:00 PM

I agree with Rich…the Incra positioner is excellent. I use one on my router table and one on my table saw. I am glad I spent the extra money every time I use them.

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#10 posted 02-29-2012 05:05 PM

May be it’s like printers and cartridges?

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Loren

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#11 posted 02-29-2012 05:09 PM

Plenty of used contractor saws out there with Biesemier
fences on them. Pick one up for a couple hundred bucks,
swap the fences on your two saws and sell the one you
don’t want.

When you buy new you pay for marketing, packaging,
fulfillment and lots of other stuff.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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NiteWalker

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#12 posted 02-29-2012 07:33 PM

Viktor, you can circumvent the ink issue by using a continuous ink system. Been using one on my inkjet for the past year and will never buy another cartridge. I’m still on the initial ink that came with mine.

And +1 on what Lauren said.
You’re paying for the name and other things, less for the actual fence.
Dust collectors are another culprit.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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John

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#13 posted 02-29-2012 07:44 PM

And if you lived closer to me, I have an extra 52” Commercial PM Fence that I would sell for 150.00

John

-- John

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canadianchips

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#14 posted 02-29-2012 09:13 PM

I am not familiar with Delta saw in 1980’s. BUT is it possible to tweek your old fence in some way to make it work. Some other LJ’s have done this and they still use the original fence.
Everyone talks about older craftmsman Table Saw fences being CRAP. I did some modifying (very little cost) and mine works very well.
I think Keifer did his as well.
Beismeyer, Incra all make GREAT fences, I really don’t want to pay twice as much for the fence than I did for my saws .

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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ShipWreck

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#15 posted 02-29-2012 09:41 PM

I think the best fence for the money is the T-2. The Biese is very nice, but not enough to buy over a T-2.

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