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444 days ago |
I have posted a few times in the last year or so and have read all the opinions for, and against the Sawstop technology and the saw itself. I understand, I get it, I agree, I disagree…and so on. I bought my old Delta table saw because I love the idea of having a beautiful old piece of machinery that is American made. I have probably spent more than I should but it was never about the money as much as it was about preserving a good old saw and enjoying it. I suppose if I really wanted to, and if the added safety was a concern, I would buy a Sawstop that is made in China. I don’t want to debate Sawstop yet again. In your experienced opinions, are there ways for me to practically eliminate table saw accidents? As an example, if I never take off the blade guard, allways use a push stick or block etc. I am probably too tired to be writing this tonight but I don’t want these conversations about the Sawstop to ruin my joy of having and using my saw. O.K. you can clobber me now. |
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#1 posted 444 days ago |
Get a shop helper and have them make all your cuts. No matter how many precautions you take, there’s always something else that can go wrong. Never assume you have found a foolproof method. -- Jesse -- |
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#2 posted 444 days ago |
Adding a power feeder, a riving knife (a huge project), and a blade guard supported from above would be possible measures you could take. There would still be instances where these devices will get in the way and have to be removed. Also, these additions could cost as much as the SawStop itself. Maybe, you can get a SawStop and hide it in the back room and keep your legacy iron on display? -- Michael :-{| Diapers and politicians both need to be changed often; and for the same reason. |
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#3 posted 444 days ago |
No matter what safety precautions you take nothing is 100%, however you greatly reduce your risk of injury this way. The main thing is to stay focused and don’t get distracted by anything when your using any equipment. Plenty of people get hurt on simple everyday tasks, usually because it’s so repetitive most people figure , I do this every day for 30 years I know what I’m doing, that’s when accidents happen, over confidence can be the most dangerous thing. -- Martin ....always count the number of fingers you have before, and after using the saw. |
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#4 posted 444 days ago |
Use common sense, if you think it may be dangerous….DON’T DO IT. -- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !" |
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#5 posted 444 days ago |
How about adding a sliding table ?
Should help :-) -- -- Neil |
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#6 posted 444 days ago |
The best way to stop table saw accidents #1 buy a Saw Stop #2 Use push sticks and feather boards #3 When sawing thin pieces have the the thin piece cut on the fall off side of the blade not between the blade and the fence one side . #4 Buy after market splitter or better yet a riving knife. #5 stand to one side to prevent getting hit buy kick back. #6 Do not allow people who are not familiar with table saw safety in your shop while using a table saw. Remember the best safety tool you have is between your ears DON’T GET DISTRACTED EVEN FOR A SECOND. -- W James Brokenbourgh Custom furniture maker http://artisticwoodstudio.com/ |
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#7 posted 444 days ago |
I have worked on the shop floor of industrial woodworking plants and machine shops for 40 years in production and maintenance and my job has always been hands on. I have operated table saws for 40 years and I have never been injured other than from heavy lifting and ordinary wear and tear on my body from bending and stooping and working under and on machinery. I have always been overly cautious. However, about a year ago I had a table saw kickback accident and it happened in the blink of an eye. I was lucky and fortunately it missed my side and just numbed my fingers but the part knocked one helluva gash in a plywood side of a cabinet behind me. An accident can happen to anybody, anytime. Just a lack of concentration, a distraction, fatigue, or just not being in the right frame of mind can cause an accident. All we can do is follow all of the common sense safety rules and work carefully. You will never eliminate the possibility of a serious accident happening even with a Sawstop. Because I’m 61 years old now and my concentration may not be 100% of what it was when in my prime (just like everything else) I wish that I had a Sawstop but I can’t afford one. However, I may one day find out that I can’t afford not to have one. I only hope that day never comes. I hope that day never comes for any of you fellas either. helluvawreck aka Charles -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau |
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#8 posted 444 days ago |
Here’s a simple piece of advice that my brother gave me when I took up woodworking for a living. Never put your fingers where you wouldn’t put your [insert regional word for penis here]. -- Do or do not, there is no try |
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#9 posted 444 days ago |
Now that’s funny. I laughed a good one there “renners” -- Lizardhead---Yeah but it's a dry heat--Tempe, Az |
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#10 posted 444 days ago |
I live by that peace of wisdom |
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#11 posted 444 days ago |
1. Don’t hand feed when ripping solid wood. Use a power feeder. Safest 2. Don’t cross-cut panels using a rip fence. Use a cut-off box or sliding table. 3. Use an overarm guard at all times. 4. Cut tenon cheeks on the band saw. 5. Don’t use dado blades. 6. Use a vertical splitter if possible. 7. Use appropriate outfeed support for every cut. 8. Think through every cut before making it. |
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#12 posted 432 days ago |
If I followed Loren’s #1-6, I wouldn’t need a table saw. :-) Read every book on table saws you can find. -- Gerry, http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/CNC_Woodworker.html |
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#13 posted 432 days ago |
Let’s get the “standardized forum responses” out of the way first. “Anytime you spend money in a way I don;t think is right, you are dumb.” “Whatever type of machine you want, it’s wrong if I don;t like that one also.” “If your way of doing something doesn’t come from me telling you to do it, it’s wrong.” Other than that, there is no reason you can’t enjoy your table saw even though it’s not a “whatever brand has caught other peoples fancy”. You have to be safe on whatever saw you buy and the name tag on the front is less important than the person operating it anyway. If you like it, have fun and don;t worry about us! Some will be hanging out in cyberspace giving each other a hard time no matter just so jsut go have fun while we tick each other off! -- Tom Hintz, www.newwoodworker.com |
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#14 posted 431 days ago |
Good alignment, proper blade selection, sharp blades, cutting flat/straight boards, using featherboards, pushsticks, splitter/riving knife, blade guards, keep the table waxed and free of debris, etc., are all things you can do to increase safety on a TS. -- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.... |
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#15 posted 431 days ago |
I am probably too tired to be writing this tonight Be able to recognize when you might be too tired, distracted or hurried to use your saw and stop. |
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