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Iggles88

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905 days ago

Hey guys, i have had two different table saws in less then four months, the first was a Dewalt d744 which I liked but was just too small for me. I took that saw back and bought the porter cable stationary saw. That is the saw I have now but that also has a ton of shortcomings and I can understand for the money that is going to happen. So if possible I plan to take my porter cable back and buy either the grizzly contractor saw the grizzly hybrid saw or the jet pro shop table saw with cast iron wings. I am definitely leaning towards the jet. I know even at this price range it’ll still have shortcomings but I think I’ll be able to deal with them better. I am not exactly sure if I’m going to be able to take the saw back but I’m praying I can. Any thoughts on what table saw to get or any other nice saws in the 800-1100 price range. I really can’t go any higher then that. My plan was to buy a bandsaw but after all these problems with my table saw I’m going to just upgrade the table saw and deal with not having a bandsaw for a little longer.


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jaydubya

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#1 posted 905 days ago

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Iggles88

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#2 posted 905 days ago

The fence is unbelievably hard to adjust, the wings are steel not cast iron which I knew but didn’t realize how much that mattered. The miter gauge isn’t the best. I found out that the fence was slightly bent when I got my saw gauge.

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RetiredCoastie

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#3 posted 905 days ago

You should look on craigs list, you could probably get a much better saw for that much money. There are lots of deals out there. Because of the economy people are selling tools a lot more than before. Just be patient and you can get a great deal on a used unisaw, powermatic, or a jet cabinet saw that has cast iron top.

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FMG

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#4 posted 905 days ago

I agree with RetiredCoastie. I have a grizzly jointer and table saw and I am very pleased with both. After looking around on CL I come across good deals all the time. I could have saved a lot of money. Good Luck and enjoy whatever you get!

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 905 days ago

Take a look at the Ridgid contractor saw it has lots of good reviews and it’s only $549 that might leave enough left over for a band saw.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=202500206&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=202500206&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D25X-_-202500206

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knotscott

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#6 posted 905 days ago

The Jet is a nice hybrid saw, but hasn’t yet been updated with a riving knife…not a deal breaker, but the two offerings you mentioned from Grizzly give you a very nice fence, cast iron wings, and a riving knife. One advantage Jet does have is the availability of dealer support.

If you’re not opposed to granite, the Craftsman 22116 is made by Steel City/Orion and is essentially the same saw as the Steel City 35930.

If you’ve got 220v available, the step to a 3hp cabinet saw is pretty substantial. Something like the Griz G1023RL is $1349 shipped.

A good used saw is always a viable option of the right deal comes along.

Good alignment and good blade selection is the key to getting any of them to perform well.

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Iggles88

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#7 posted 905 days ago

Knotscott, are you sure that the grizzly hybrid comes with cast iron wings? That’s one thing I can’t go without. I don’t even use the riving knife on my table saw now so that’s not a problem for me with the jet saw. I definitely don’t do used tools I’d rather get a brand new saw that’s never been used even if I need to spend the money. I know people have mentioned getting a better saw but I’m only in a hobby shop and am very new to woodworking I really don’t see myself needing anymore then the saws I listed. The main points that I need on my saws are a nice fence, cast iron wings, and easy adjustments. The power shouldn’t be an issue because for the most part I only use of to 8/4 stock and by the time I’m into harder projects that require thicker stock I should have a very nice bandsaw capable of handling that.

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gfadvm

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#8 posted 905 days ago

The Grizz hybrid has cast iron wings. I’ve had mine just over a year, use it daily, and love it! I use Freud Diablo blades and power has not been a problem. I never put the factory blade on as others have said it was not “up to standard.”

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Jeremy Greiner

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#9 posted 905 days ago

Hi Iggles,
I have/had (I’m in the process of selling) a Jet Proshop Hybrid saw overall it’s a good hybrid saw. The lack of a riving knife really does suck in this day and age. Adding and removing the splitter is also a bit of a pain. The blade guard is antiquated and gets in the way in a lot of cuts so it has to be removed completely. Since there is no riving knife for it you’d either have to do without, or go with a custom insert option.

The dust collection on the saw is just ok, but the saw itself is tough it always cut everything I asked of it even 8/4 maple with a full kerf blade. The fence is ok, I’ve found that the aluminum sides can flex slightly under pressure and this somewhat bothers me.

And before you think “I don’t need a splitter/riving knife” I’d recommend watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7sRrC2Jpp4 I nearly crapped my pants just watching it.

Newly designed saws are required to have a riving knife for a good reason, personally buying a NEW saw without one just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.

One of the reasons I upgraded away from the jet saw was lack of a riving knife, and poor blade guard assembly.

For the price you are paying for the jet, you should get something with a riving knife, and a more convenient blade guard removal system that doesn’t require a wrench.

However if you’re in the Orlando FL area, I’ll be letting go of my proshop for about $400 I think (pricing to sell quickly) .. you’re welcome to come by and check it out.

-jeremy

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knotscott

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#10 posted 905 days ago

Yep, I’m sure.

For ease of adjustment the cabinet saws are far easier to adjust..

Here’s the G715P:

Here’s the G0713:

Here’s the G1023RL:

I don’t have a pic of the guts of a G0713 or G0715P, but the one below is close enough to make the point about the difference of construction under the hood compared to a cabinet saw:

Lowes can order the Steel City saws…if you have any trouble with returning the PCB270TS, maybe ordering a Steel City saw from them would persuade them. The SC35990C goes for ~ $720 here:

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Charlie

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#11 posted 905 days ago

The 35990C is on sale for $649. Go to Steel City’s web site and print their 2012 flyer. Lowes will price match. You may also be able to combine the price match with a Lowe’s “mover” coupon. Register on Lowes site as someone who is moving and they send you a 10% off anything in the store coupon about 3 days later.

That would make the 35990C about $585. I have the G model and I’m extremely happy with it.

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Iggles88

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#12 posted 905 days ago

What if any do people know about these steel city saws? I wasn’t considering their saws at all but it seems that it’s not gonna make sense to buy the jet saw and grizzlys shipping and tax just kills me so I have to go a different route and it seems steel city might have to be a major consideration.

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 905 days ago

@Iggles88,
You are slowly working your way toward getting a real cabinet TS and have already stepped through two TS already. Why not finally do it right and pull the trigger? That way you only have to cry once (over the cost) and you will be able to quit losing money with all the intermediary saws, possibly again…

No one likes to see a fellow LJ losing hard earned $$$. Two years ago I started my TS search to replace my TV-tray circularsaw-turned-tablesaw with something ‘real.’ I started out looking at $400 saws and ended up spending ~$1700 on my Grizzly G0690 (w/router extension and mobile base). Once done, I have never regretted that quantum leap of faith. I smile every time I fire it up.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

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Iggles88

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#14 posted 905 days ago

That’s actually where I’m at right now I’d love to get a nice cabinet saw and would pull the trigger right away the more I think about it Id spend the money but my shop isn’t set up for 220 so I’m not sure how that works or how to switch it but If it’s possible I’d go with a nice cabinet saw

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Dorty

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#15 posted 905 days ago

I have the steel city 35990G and really like it. $649. I to got the Porta Cable Stationary saw at Lowes and took it back. The Steel City is a much better built saw.

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