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getlostinwood

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02-26-2012 12:40 AM

I’m in the process of building my youngest daughter a maple and walnut dresser. Maple out of the fire wood pile, so far so good. Rough walnut truly beautiful but has grain switching back and forth on every freaking board. I send it through one way and it gets halfway through and then tear out, send through the other end first, same thing different end. Small stuff I could stand to do some extra work with the scraper but I literally set the planer to cut a 64th and ended up with some 8th inch deep tearout. Blades have about 10 hours of run on them, I hone them lightly before each use and they are still sharp enough that I get smooth cutting halfway through that looks great but as soon as the grain swithches on me the tear out will make you cringe. I’m thinking I have found the reason for a thickness sander.
Maybe I need to have blades reharpened? Old school planer so I cnat change the feed rate. I’m just at a loss

Any advise will be greatly appreciated, I’m as frustrated as a spotter bull in spring…...............

-- The basis for optimism is shear terror


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Bill White

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#1 posted 02-26-2012 12:47 AM

Some time you’re the windshield. Some time you’re the bug.
Looks like you might need to use hand planes. The power planer has no mercy when it comes to grain tearout.
Have ya tried to reverse the direction of feed? Feeding on an angle? What kinda grind on the planer blades?
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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getlostinwood

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#2 posted 02-26-2012 01:01 AM

Handplaning in on my short list of things to learn, this may push it up. I’ve tied end for end, angle to the left, angle to the right, take less bite, more bite. Honestly dont know the angle on the blades. I sent them to the sharpening shop and honestly diddnt know anything abut different angles. After this weeks learn to do ( sharpen chisels by the scary sharp method) I now am questioning the angle but not sure what angles to even consider. I really only use the planer for hardwoods, maple, walnut, cherry, and oak.
The Bug

-- The basis for optimism is shear terror

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JayCop

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#3 posted 02-26-2012 01:20 AM

Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8Tj1lUha4 This jack plane is on my short list of tools to get. Another thing to try with the power planer is wetting the board with some mineral spirts before you send it through the cutters. Other then that you could send me that figured walnut ;)

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MashMaster

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#4 posted 02-26-2012 01:34 AM

Did you get tear out on the jointer too? I have some of this same walnut and haven’t done anything other than cut it to rough width yet.

-- - Dave ; Austin, TX

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getlostinwood

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#5 posted 02-26-2012 01:46 AM

The jointer had some minor (very minor) tear out on one or two pieces. All in all not bad at all. I just watched the grain direction and it seemed fine until I ran it through the planer, even then if I could feed it half way through and stop then feed half way through the other way It’d be fine. To the positive the grain is absolutly incredible and you got the best of the lot. Come to think of it that may be the problem you two left me with the left overs…. Just kidding, but it does have some really crazy grain that switches back and forth. I’ll keep you up to speed on the solution I come up with.

The tooth plane looks interesting but dont know yet

-- The basis for optimism is shear terror

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MashMaster

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#6 posted 02-26-2012 01:57 AM

good to know, If I have a chance I’ll bring a piece to my class and ask my instructor (furniture maker) what he suggests.

-- - Dave ; Austin, TX

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getlostinwood

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#7 posted 02-26-2012 02:02 AM

Since I’m free the next couple of days, I think I’ll try the wetting method first. Depending on how that goes I may need to start convincing the wife a new hand plane isnt that expensive….....

-- The basis for optimism is shear terror

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gfadvm

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#8 posted 02-26-2012 02:45 AM

A drum sander is not cheap but it is the answer for those highly figured woods. Maybe a local cabinet shop would run these through their wide belt or drum sander for an hourly fee.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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