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WoodJack49

189 posts in 250 days


133 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: brush finish finishing water-based

I have already finished three smaller drawers and am moderately satisfied with the results. I am now gettign ready to finish the two larger roll-out drawers for our vanity cabinet and would like to do a better job on these. My problem are is the edges of the drawers. I am using a water-based poly because of the potential of liquids spilling/leaking and either eating or staining the drawers.

It seems very difficult to me to put a coat of finish on either the inside, outside or edges without creating runs on the other edges. I have considered finishing one surface at a time wiping up the runs as I go. This would be a very slow process and might affect the integrity of the finish where the surfaces meet. It could also be a problem on the final coat creating smears. I’m not opposed to rubbing out the final coat but, would liek to avoid it if possible.

Does anyone have any suggestions that I have missed in the finishing books that I have read?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don’t have the equipment or room to do a spray finish and I’ve never had very good luck with spray cans.

-- Jack - Mission Viejo, Calif

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Critterman

481 posts in 297 days


133 days ago

Jack, I know the big box stores sell water based sprays. Spraying several thin layers and if you take your time and do it right…no drips. Of course, you have to be patient and do several thin layers…that’s usually where I fail…LOL I also hate doing inside drawers because all those inside corners, some folks do the finish before assembly, but in your case you may want some of that poly in those cracks and crevices. It’s definitely one of the hardest aspects of finishing I’ve had to deal with and have failed a few times. Spaying thin coats is where I’ve had the best success, but you have to take your time and do just very thin layers and build it up. Just my two cents.

-- Jim Hallada, Chesterfield, VA

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Lee A. Jesberger

2758 posts in 466 days


133 days ago

Hi Jack;

It’s as Critterman says, thin coats being built up is always better. Sanding between coats with a very fine scotch brite pad or wet / dry sandpaper will make the final coat smoother.

Drips can easily be cut off with a very sharp chisel, but obviously try to avoid them.

Rubbing out the final coat is the only way I am aware of for a perfect finish.

Lee

P.S. I don’t like it either. (lol)

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Russel

1230 posts in 426 days


133 days ago

Hey Jack,

Those pesky drips are the reason I predominantly use wipe-on poly these days.

-- When you give someone a chance it may well be their last.

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ND2ELK

2485 posts in 261 days


133 days ago

I brushed all my cabinets and drawers. Never used water base finishes. I would put one coat of satin poly on and steel wool with 000. I would vacuum and put on second coat. Then I would apply wax with 000 steel wool and wipe off. I finished the inside of my cabinets and drawers the same as I did the outsides.

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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GaryK

8489 posts in 475 days


133 days ago

I hate drips!

In fact I hate finishing all together.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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Scott Bryan

9116 posts in 309 days


133 days ago

I agree with Tom and Russel. I have used water poly in the past but have gone back to oil poly. I have brushed and sprayed it predominately but going to a wipe on routine improved my finishing ability markedly, especially on drawers and other vertical surfaces where I used to have problems with runs if I didn’t catch it before it dried.

But as Lee suggested if you find them then shave the dried runs off with a sharp blade or razor and re-coat.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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teenagewoodworker

2034 posts in 255 days


132 days ago

i just want to put it out there that i’ve never had any drip or run problems with a GOOD wipe on poly or varnish like Arm-r-seal by gereral finishes. just take your time and do thin coats.

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matter

181 posts in 256 days


132 days ago

If you can handle the smell, use Watco lacquer. It dries really really fast, and you can build 4-5 coats in a day. Brushed, or sprayed.

I personally have never not rubbed out a finish so I don’t know how happy I would be a month after finishing when I looked at it. The Watco rubs out easily though, and in drawers you probably don’t have to worry about it.

Matt

-- The only easy wood project is a fire

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trifern

4075 posts in 254 days


132 days ago

I have had good results with wipe-on poly. It does not run as much as brush on poly. The key to all types of finish is multiple thin coats.

-- Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit.

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cowboy

65 posts in 274 days


132 days ago

There’s a great example of youth getting it right with teen age woodworker’s reply.I have used the arm r seal finish from General Finishes for about 15 yrs now ,it’s easy,does a great job , my clients love the feel and I can’t say enough about it. Put on and wiped down ,sanded between coats and you will have a wonderful finish with no problems at all for drawers.
It takes a little more doing on a large flat surface like a large tabletop but it is just a matter on techique.

Cowboy

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WoodJack49

189 posts in 250 days


129 days ago

Thanks to everyone for your advise. I have been holding off responding until I have a chance to check the availabilty of wipe-on oil poly in my area but, I haven’t had the chance to get out as yet. I don’t beleive oil-based poly is available in California in either brush-on or wipe-on forms, only the spray can variety. And my experience with spray cans is worse than my experience brushing on WB poly.

Hopefully, I’ll get out his weekend and double-check availability of the wipe-on products. I prefer wipe-on finishes. I have used Waterlox and have been very happy with it. Wipe-on, oil-based poly would be great if I can find it.

Thanks again.

-- Jack - Mission Viejo, Calif

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jerry118

21 posts in 227 days


126 days ago

Essentially wipe on poly is diluted brush on variety. Add a little mineral spirits, make a wad of cheesecloth or other clean absorbant cloth and spread it on. Brush marks are non existant. Build with multiple applications with smoothing between coats.

-- Jerry, Wichita KS

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