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Forum topic by Iggles88 posted 02-20-2012 05:20 AM 3151 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Iggles88

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02-20-2012 05:20 AM

Hey all, I’m in the process of buying my first bandsaw…....I’m going to go with either the grizzly ultimate or the grizzly ultimate extreme series. I have looked at both saws and both seem to be great saws but the extreme series does have some nicer features. I know from past experiences (table saw) not to jump into something too quickly because of the price, sometimes it’s just better to save more and spend more money to get better quality. My question is what people that have the grizzly bandsaws think. I’d rather spend less money but don’t want to get something i won’t be happy with because i was being cheap. Thanks everyone in advance.


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Loren

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#1 posted 02-20-2012 05:49 AM

My advice is to get a steel framed saw with a fixed capacity.

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rum

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#2 posted 02-20-2012 06:08 AM

Well I mostly can’t compare based on first hand experience, but I have a 513X2F and had a brief experience with part of a G0636X :D

What happened is that I bought the 513 but was shipped the 636 table, which interestingly fit the saw but was drilled wrong for the fence (a friend has the . If I had been half as smart as I thought I was I’d have kept my mouth shut, drilled the holes myself and kept the 636 table (instead I returned it for the correct table so I didn’t have to drill/tap). It was ~1.5+ thicker and almost twice as heavy. If the rest of the 636 is built with similar differences, its a heck of a saw!

The fence on the 513 is “ok”, adjusts drift pretty easy. The 636 fence looks a lot more solid, a friend has a G0531B and the solid bar is much nicer than the aluminum extrusion (the 636 is a round bar). On the flip side the high/low feature on the 513 fence is nice as well if you cut short stuff… the 636 only has a tall fence…

This isn’t to say that I don’t like the 513, its a great saw as well and I’m quite happy with it. I was able to thermal overload it once when resawing a huge stack of wet timber, but that was pushing the saw really hard so its not very fair to diss the saw based on that. I’ve run from blades from 3/4” down to 3/16” with no problems, resawed boards up to 11” wide (which is darn close to the max capability) – only cedar that wide so far so it was ‘easy” cutting harder stuff (mostly Lyptus which is evil hard) up to 6” wide into thinner panels just fine as well.

Ditch the default blade (obviously) and get a couple of good blades from someplace like http://www.spectrumsupply.com/kerfmaster.aspx (same as woodslicer basically, just cheaper)

If it was down to choosing between these two saws, I’d give Jesse Barragan @ Eagle tools (jesse at eagle-tools.com) a line about the Aggazani and talk to Sam Blasco sblasco at scmgroup.com about the minimax (http://www.minimax-usa.com/) bandsaws to compare to the grizzly ultimate – you’re in the same ball park price range as the Grizzly and its worth comparing at least. Both of these are really great guys to talk to and have a TON of information on their bandsaws. Jesse is also willing to talk and give you the low down on the phone, help you figure out what size/features you, etc.. I’m certainly not down talking the Grizzly, I’m sure the ultimate is a kick butt saw (as noted I’m happy with the baby brother), but if it was my money I’d go for one of the Italian Stallions for the bigger saw…

I think in a lot of ways it boils down to whether you do mostly resaw or want a general purpose with occasional resaw. I decided I was in the latter case and that the extreme series was plenty of saw for what I needed to do.

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NY_Rocking_Chairs

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#3 posted 02-20-2012 12:25 PM

Iggles,

What size are you looking at? If you are looking at the smaller band-saws with the thought of someday adding the height extension then I suggest skipping the extremes and going to the G0457 (which is a Deluxe), I have the G0457 and I did go to the Grizzly showroom in Muncy, PA to play with the various saws before deciding which to buy.

If you are jumping right into a larger saw, the 17” or so, then the Extremes are a heavier duty saw than the G0457 with some extra features, though I couldn’t justify the $200-$300 in added expense. I watched the sales and caught the G0457 with 10% off and free shipping.

I have never had an issue with the saw and I have assembled it, taken it apart for moving, stored it for 6 months and re-assembled it without any problems.

Good luck.
-Rich

-- Rich, WNY, www.nyrockingchairs.com

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Howie

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#4 posted 02-20-2012 12:30 PM

I have a GO555X and am well pleased. Been an excellent purchase. Whatever you buy, get a good blade.

-- Life is good.

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SteveKorz

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#5 posted 02-20-2012 02:15 PM

I don’t know how this compares to the grizzly saws you are looking at, but I have the Rikon 14” deluxe. I saved and got the bigger one, and never have regretted it. I absolutely love that saw…

http://m.woodcraft.com/aHR0cDovL3d3dy53b29kY3JhZnQuY29tL1Byb2R1Y3QvMjAyMDA0MS8xODg1NS9SaWtvbi0xNC1EZWx1eGUtQmFuZHNhdy5hc3B4

Good luck.

Steve.

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

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Jeremiah

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#6 posted 02-20-2012 02:17 PM

I bought Grizzly Ultimate bandsaw w/ the riser about 6-7 years ago, and have loved it. As long as I’m patient i can resaw 10”-12” boards fairly well, and 6”-8” boards easily. its well made and the fact that it came with ball bearing guides instead of cool blocks was also a bonus.

My opinion:the extra hp in the extreme series would be nice, but i dont know if it would be worth the extra $. unless you plan on resawing I’d say stick with the G0555.

Let us know what you go with,
JD

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richgreer

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#7 posted 02-20-2012 02:49 PM

I have 2 bandsaws. One is an 18” with a 3/4 blade that I use, almost exclusively, for resawing and straight cuts. The second is an 11” with a Carter Stabilizer and a 3/16” bit. It is perfect for the curvy stuff. Those Carter Stabilizers are great, but you cannot use them with anything bigger than a 1/4” blade.

I think this is a great setup. It may not be feasible for some people to do this due to financial and/or space limitations. Nonetheless, if you can do it, I think it is a great way to go.

I share this perspective thinking that, even if you cannot go this route now, you may want to make your purchase now with an eye to evolving to the 2 bandsaw strategy in the future.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Elizabeth

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#8 posted 02-20-2012 04:04 PM

I have the Griz ultimate 14 and I kind of wish I’d gone for the Extreme now. I love my bandsaw, but the extra features (resaw fence, lamp, larger table, etc) would have been nice to have now that I am getting into resawing. I had to buy an extra lamp for my shop to make sure I had enough light on the saw for curve work too.

That said, had I thought about the possibility of having two bandsaws like Rich does, I probably would have gone that round instead, and may still do so in the future if space/budget allows. I hate having to switch between the resaw blade and the narrow blade and would probably do more playing on the bandsaw if I didn’t have to do that.

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 02-21-2012 03:18 AM

I have the 17” extreme series Grizz, have tortured it resawing Osage Orange (hedge) and then cutting fine curves. It has been trouble free and I’ve never regretted this purchase.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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wncguy

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#10 posted 02-22-2012 08:33 PM

Rich – I’m going to get a Grizzly 14”, and reviewed the video on the Carter Stabilizer after seeing your post. Did you convert your saw to Carter guides & add the stabilizer? Using the stabilizer, can you still get good straight cuts with your 3/16 blade?
Elizabeth – based on your comment think I might try for the G0555X…
Thanks

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HawkDriver

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#11 posted 02-22-2012 08:56 PM

I have owned my GO555X with riser block for a little over a year now. It is a fantastic machine. I have used 3/16” to 3/4” blades on it, have made crosscuts, rips, curved lines and used it for resawing. The attached light is REALLY handy, the dust collections is good and the power is unstoppable :-)

-- Patrick, Helicopters don't fly. They beat the air into submission.

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VillageBoy

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#12 posted 03-05-2012 11:07 PM

Most people I have read and talked to have had great experiences/success with Grizzly Machines and customer service.

I have the 19” Ultimate BS, and it awesome I cut mostly (90%) Gabon Ebony. The only problem I have had is with the tension assembly. The threads on the tension assembly were nicked at the factory (I assume), and as a result I have had to remove the upper wheel and clean out and try to file down the grooves.

Grizzly CS, says they can send me a new assembly or I may have to return the saw and they will ship me another. I am trying to avoid this due to the fact that an electrician has to come out and remove the power cord and reinstall when the new BS comes. Costly inconvenience.

Other than that, I am in love with my Grizzly BS

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