Used Planes

The #82 is a scraper, handy for cleaning glue joints of panels. The BaIley #5 seems like a frankenplane. The raised border on the bed, along with the knob on raised ring, are indicators of types much later than the plain lever cap. Either way, $50 is high. All three for $50 would be reasonable, but I know several lj’s that wouldn’t give even that much. Standing by now to see what others add to the discission…

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I am with Smitty, the first loiks to be a defiance plane. $10 maybe, to me. The #5 is definitely a frankenplane. Lever cap and body are about 6-7 types apart. $25-30. No idea of value on the scraper. You can do better unless the 82 has significant value. Good luck.

Small plane might be an “Acorn” made by Stanley and sometimes found with a named Stanley lever cap.
Ive seen black, blue, and orange ones.

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Since I just went on a shopping trip yesterday and saw a lot of used planes, I’ll chime in here a little. I bought a WWII era Bailey #4 yesterday for $15 + tax, and a Bedrock 605 (same size as that #5) for $12. Except for a piece broken from the handle, the 605 was in much better shape than that #5. Also, it looks like there is a weld repair visible on that #5 you picture, so I would probably stay away from it an any price.

Good restorable pre-1945 #4 or #5 planes are usually about $15 to $30 most places I see them.

An #82 without iron is $10, if you weren’t in the market for one. ;-)

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Those red totes are definitely the sign of a (Stanley) Defiance plane, a,d the red stain is a real bitch to get out, too. Like Smitty and Shane said, that’s too high for the planes. Personally, the Bailey 5 plane is usable at a lower cost, but I wouldn’t invest in the first plane. The scraper is neat, but you’d have to find a blade for it.

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Don’t listen to lifesaver, he got abnormally good prices on his planes! :-)

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Lifesaver- far side of the mouth, inside, looks like a weld line to you? Good catch! Something to ask about…

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But he has a great eye! There’s a weld. Stay away!

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WOW….Thank you very much for all the sage advice. I did notice the weld repair myself and I emailed him back telling him I was going to hold off and wait for a plane that is original and in better condition. He said he would sell me the three of them for $100 man I am glad i asked you experts first. Planes and old hand tools in general are a weak point in my knowledge base so i will be keeping myself fully read up on this forum so i know what to do when I do find some nice planes.

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Kickback, follow Ebay for a few days and try to see what planes are selling for. If you find yourself interested in a certain plane, just ask it here and there are dozens of people that can give you advice on it. Best wishes on finding one (or several)!

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What I would like to acquire is a jointer plane as I think I would use it quite often. And then maybe a good all around general use plane if there is such an animal? Would the #5’s or Bedrocks be good general use planes for basic smoothing?

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Yeah, Lifesaver’s prices are atypical! He was out there stealing. : )

Smitty, yes that is what I was seeing. I will revise what I said though, I would probably give a few bucks for that plane since I need a tote for the 605.

Brandon, I will admit I am cheap enough and patient enough that I only buy on the low end of that range, but I really have seen and lot of planes in that range. That doesn’t mean I haven’t seen quite a few higher priced planes, but they also sit forever and don’t sell. Right now I know where there is a 1946-47 #4 for $30 that could be put in use with just the blade sharpened, and an early 30’s #4 for 45 in even better shape. Of course, I did see a guy trying to get $50 for a type 18 in only fair shape, but I figure he will hold on to it for a while.

In my area, the #5 planes are generally cheaper than the #4. I own three nice #5 size planes now and never paid over $15 for one.

The #5 is an excellent plane for your first one. Typically, you’ll want three—a jack plane (i.e., #5), a jointer (i.e. #7 or #8), and a smoother (#3 or #4). But the #5 is the one I use most and if I had to keep only one, that’d be it. Stanely Bedrock planes are a brand that come in most of the same sizes as the Stanley Baileys, they just have different numbers (605 instead of #5; 608 instead of #8 etc.)

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