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Forum topic by Lifesaver2000 posted 02-19-2012 10:45 PM 1523 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Lifesaver2000

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02-19-2012 10:45 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane

I usually don’t post this type of thing, but I do need a question answered if someone will be good enough to help out.

I was out antique shopping with my lovely wife yesterday, and came across a flea market we hadn’t seen before. I am always on the lookout for good deals on planes even though I don’t really need any more, and saw one sitting on a shelf just after I walked in to this place.

I picked it up and was quite surprised when I read the “No. 605” on the front of the plane, and saw the “Stanley R&L Co. Bed Rock” on the lever cap. Since the overall shape was the same as the Bailey planes I have, not the Flat Top of the Bedrock planes I have seen, I wasn’t sure just what was going on. The back of the tote has the “wing” or whatever it is called broken off, there is some surface rust but no pitting, cracks or chips on the main body, and the frog has just a slight chip that I think I can work out with a little lapping.

I figured for $11.95 it was worth the risk. When I got home I found it was a 605 Type 3 based on a type study site I found. I didn’t know that the earlier types didn’t have the flat top sides.

My plan is just to replace the tote, clean it up and use it. From what I have found on most web sites, this isn’t a particularly valuable version of the Bedrock, but before it goes in the Evaporust I wanted to make sure I wasn’t degrading the value by removing the original patina. I really want to just use this, but don’t want to do something that would make a collector cringe.

I also picked up a Bailey No. 4 Type 17 for $14.95 in very good shape (I actually did need another #4), and passed on a No. 3 Type 17 for the same price but slightly worse but restorable condition. Saw bunches of other planes in various flea markets and antique shops, some quite cheap. Saw one wooden plane that had to be 30 inches long, and also saw a transitional plane for the first time in person. Pretty good day if you are a hand tool / hand plane geek.

So, is this, as I hope, a user?


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Don W

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#1 posted 02-19-2012 10:54 PM

you’ve found yourself a couple of nice prizes. You shouldn’t hurt the value, restore it and use it. The 605 is pretty common, but its still pretty valuable. It would go for a little less than the flat top, but its still a great user. I would guess its worth close to 10 times what you paid.

I’ve been doing some work in Arkansas. You guys have a lot of indoor flea markets down there. My first week on the project a brought home a nice #5

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ShaneA

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#2 posted 02-19-2012 10:55 PM

You got robbed. But being the guy I am, I will reimburse you, plus shipping of course. That way you will not have wasted money on the worthless bedrock. : )

You did real well. Very good plane, very good price. I think that may have been one of the last types to have round sides.

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Don W

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#3 posted 02-19-2012 11:05 PM

of course, not pic’s, it never happened.

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#4 posted 02-19-2012 11:47 PM

Great score! How bad was the sole on the Bedrock? Let’s see some pictures!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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Lifesaver2000

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#5 posted 02-20-2012 12:13 AM

Here are some pictures:

I have another question. I have the Lee Valley pattern for the tote that is supposed to fit the Bailey planes. Will this also work on the Bedrock? They look pretty much identical to me.

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#6 posted 02-20-2012 01:31 AM

Actually, you did not get a #605, I hate to tell you.

It is a #605C ;)

As to the idea of patina, it also goes by its more familiar name: RUST. That will clean up wonderfully. I prefer those low knobs myself. The after market totes should fit fine. You can also make new or repair the one you have.

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#7 posted 02-20-2012 01:39 AM

the bailey template will work. You could also just repair that tote. Just glue or epoxy a piece on and feather it in.

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Lifesaver2000

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#8 posted 02-20-2012 01:54 AM

Yeah, I knew about the “C” but just spaced it off when I was typing that in. As for the patina thing, it is just that I know that a lot of old guns loose value if the rust and stuff is removed, and didn’t want to do that type of thing.

I have restored four Bailey type planes so far with good results (a #7 type 17, and #5 type 16, a Keen Kutter KK5 and a pre-war Craftsman #4), as well as a #110 block plan, so I expect similar results with this one. I still have a Record router plane and a late 19th-century Stanley #78 to restore, so I will probably just do all these as a group. But, since this one is a little special, and I already have the “before” photos I might do a blog entry on this one at least.

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Lifesaver2000

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#9 posted 02-20-2012 01:55 AM

That might be a good thing to do Don now that you mention it. Unlike most old planes I have messed with, the tote on this one is a nice tight fit, so fixing this one might be the way to go. Thanks for the idea.

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#10 posted 02-20-2012 01:57 AM

It will restore nicely. I say scalp a tote from another one, if you can get planes for $15, a good tote is worth more than that. Nice find.

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