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Forum topic by steffen707 posted 02-18-2012 06:23 PM 2650 views 1 time favorited 40 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-18-2012 06:23 PM

Well everybody I thank you for all your discussion about the unisaw I wanted to buy, unfortunately it was sold before I could get it. I know This used powermatic 64 is far from unisaw quality, but I think I did well.

Its set up for 220 and the plate on the motor said its 18amps in 110 or 9amps in 220. It also said 1.5HP, but from some of the calculators online 9 amps 220volt was at 3HP with 100% efficiency and 100% p.f%. So I don’t know if manufacturers now quote with HP ratings so they can make their saw look tougher, but I bet this old motor at 9amps 220 volt is pretty good compared to many sub $700 new table saws. Maybe not…..

$375 including the awesome fence and the cabinet the PO built. It needs a malamine extension to the right, I swapped out the metal casters already for some locking rubber ones I got at harbor freight last night. I’m looking to make an extension cord for it, buy a dial indicator and check for the blade and fense to be square.

My thought in buying this saw was that I can do a couple of projects over the next 6-12 months and if I fall in love with wood working, then I can always upgrade and unless the motor blows on this saw, I should be able to get most of my money out of this setup.

I was reading and some people said a right tilt powermatic like this was actually a 63, but mine says 64 on the side. The PO said he got it in the late 90s, and the fence about 8 years ago.

My only problem is that the insides are kinda dirty and the tilt function is kinda stiff. I don’t know if this just needs a solid cleaning to fix the problem or if there is actually somthing wrong with it.

Here is the fun story of the purchase:
I wanted to see the saw in action before I bought it. The PO was keeping his WW2 blade so he threw a diablo 60 (or 80) tooth blade on there, don’t remember which, and handed me a 7”x15”x3/4” piece of oak, set the fence to 6.5” and as he turned the saw on I went to cover my ears because my ryobi is a banshee and my mom is a speech and language pathologist so I always protect my ears.

Well I was pleasantly surprised at how quiet it was, (i mean, I ALWAYS WEAR HEARING PROTECTION, even using my impact driver) and it was quiet. I also always wear eye protection using my table saw, but didn’t have any, so I told him to cut the board, and he was like, “No you go ahead, just hold it tight against the fence (no splitter, riving knife or guard installed, and I wasn’t using a pushing block of any kind. So in the back of my head i’m remembering a recent story somebody on lumberjocks said about cutting a board he’s done 1000s of times and it ends up catching the back of blade and hitting him in the stomach.

I push the board through the blade and made my first cut with my new saw, HOLY SMOKES, cut like butter, smoother than anything my ryobi has ever done (I know the stock ryobi blade is horrible). But man, everything was awesome and I didn’t lose any fingers!

Here are some pictures for you guys.

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.


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#1 posted 02-18-2012 06:25 PM

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#2 posted 02-18-2012 06:28 PM

$375 is a really nice deal on that saw. Great fence, very good contractor saw. The dirt/sawdust inside will clean up fairly well….wire brush, then white lithium grease to lube it. Get some PALS to help with alignment ($20), get the setup spot on, and get a good blade or two, and you should be set! Congrats!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#3 posted 02-18-2012 06:35 PM

Thanks guys! What are PALS?

Also I did order a couple of those onsrud blades off of ebay. Should be here next week.

Also I’m going to have to modify some stuff to get the splitter reinstalled.

OH! I forgot to say it also came with 3 throat plates. and a 4” dust collection port under the saw. I’m going to make a 18” extension table behind the saw to cover the motor hanging off the back and make an access door to it.

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#4 posted 02-18-2012 06:38 PM

Great find, I notice thats a 110 wall switch mounted on it. I’d look at that (if your running 220v)

-- But hon I need this tool.......

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#5 posted 02-18-2012 06:42 PM

If you look at the 4th picture of the trunions you can see the red belt he had on there. Very weird, there are like 1” rubber links, and you customer make the length of the belt. He said they are awesome and he loves them. Anybody ever use one of these before? I’ll try to find the name when I get home.

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#6 posted 02-18-2012 06:43 PM

Link belts…most of us use them.

Also Pals are a contractor saw alignment part. Cheap and very helpful.

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#7 posted 02-18-2012 06:44 PM

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#8 posted 02-18-2012 06:44 PM

Thanks Mike, yeah I noticed the interesting switch he installed on there. I’ve got a nice 220 switch for my compressor. Think I might go buy another one.

I like the idea of those large RED STOP kinds of switches, but I thought most of those just have plugs and outlets, instead of a direct wire setup. Anybody have a link to one of these?

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#9 posted 02-18-2012 06:46 PM

Well cool, i’ll check out the pals and get a dial indicator. I know incra makes a kit that goes in the miter slot for aligning the blade/fence, I also read about some guy that makes his own and people gave good reviews about his. Thought I thought his were around $150 for the dial indicator set.

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#10 posted 02-18-2012 06:56 PM

http://austin.craigslist.org/tls/2850181453.html

Steffen—This link should make you feel great!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#11 posted 02-18-2012 07:00 PM

LMAO! Well I do feel like a craigslist champion now. That saw is in a lot cleaner state, but mine isn’t horrible. Gotta polish up the top and clean the insides.

Speaking of which, how do you clean all the crap off the trunions? And do you use paste wax on the gears as well as the cast iron top?

I’m a rookie, taking my baby steps. :)

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#12 posted 02-18-2012 07:02 PM

Brass bristle brushes and then a dry type spray lube on the inners.

WD40 with a green scotchbrite pad on your sander for the saw table top.

Then wipe off the top and use paste wax.

I knew that link would make you smile HAHA!!!!

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#13 posted 02-18-2012 07:11 PM

Hmm, I don’t think I know what a dry spray lube would be.

You mean like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Dry-Graphite-Lube-Oz-Spray/dp/B000AYJ0ZW

-- If you think it will take a week and cost $100, it will take a month and cost $400.

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#14 posted 02-18-2012 07:16 PM

Yes. Some use graphite, some PTFE….Home Depot has a whole aisle of them.
http://www.3inone.com/products/dry-lubricant/

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#15 posted 02-18-2012 08:07 PM

If he’s got a link belt on there, he may have already installed the PALS. Check the rear bolts on the trunnion brackets.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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