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02-15-2012 12:48 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer planer shop

I haven’t been very active lately because of work and reorganizing the shop. I will post pictures of the updates in a few weeks.

So let me start with the sad. My father recently gave me his 1974 Camaro Z28. This car has been in my family since the 80’s. I don’t have the time or money to take care of it so I started trying to find it a new home. I am very excited that I have a few prospective buyers. The sad part will be saying goodbye. My father used to take me out every weekend for ice cream in this thing. It became a tradition.

Now to the good part. I gain two things from selling the car. First it takes up half of my two car garage which I currently use as my shop. I will now be able to spread my tools out and work more efficiently. It will also give me more wood storage. The other plus is that I will now have the money to upgrade my table saw and my planer and jointer.

My plan is to buy a Sawstop PCS as I always worry about my safety and my fingers are my lively hood. The second is where I need some help. I am planning on getting a planer jointer combo machine. I currently have a rigid 6 inch jointer and a Dewalt 734 planner. They have both served me well but have very obvious limitations when working with long thick stock.

I was looking at the jet 12 inch combo because I thought the better tools were out of my range. It turns out that Hammer is having a sale on their combo machines. The A31 is only 3k right now instead of its usual 3700. Should I go for the Hammer? Have 12 inches of jointing capacity would be amazing and only having to deal with one set of knives would be a life saver.

I still need to get an electrician out to upgrade my panel and add some 220 circuits. Any advice would be helpful.

-- Will work for wood...


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#1 posted 02-15-2012 12:50 AM

By the way anyone want to purchase my jointer and or planer?

-- Will work for wood...

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#2 posted 02-15-2012 01:01 AM

Hope I’m not out of line.

I would keep the Camaro. 10-20 yrs down the road you may be in the position to fix it up and then you will be glad you kept it.

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#3 posted 02-15-2012 01:05 AM

Bullet head, You are definately not out of line. I keep thinking about this over and over again. I just don’t see myself using it much. I only drive it about 100 miles a year and I can’t afford the maintenance on it not to mention insurance etc. hence the reason I have decided to sell it. I do appreciate your input. I just don’t want the car to rot in my garage for years. It seams like it would be a sin to let it slowly die sitting there.

-- Will work for wood...

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#4 posted 02-15-2012 01:06 AM

Make sure your machine is single phase, 220 or 240 Vac.
Ask for the manufacturer’s recommendation on how to hook it up electrically. After $3K, surely they can tell you exactly what you need to do.

If not, get the HP rating. Get a type of circuit breaker that has a HP rating. The receptacle for your machine should also have a HP rating too. This wire size should match the current rating of the circuit breaker. Sizing by HP will ensure you to take into account of motor starting current. Unless your cable distance is long, generally 20 amp is #12 awg, #10 for 30 amp.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#5 posted 02-15-2012 01:07 AM

Oh yea, the camero.
Is it a stick?
Automatic is horrible for sports car.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#6 posted 02-15-2012 01:08 AM

hhhopks, Thank you for the electrical advice. I was curious about how to wire the machines up. My garage has a 60 amp subpanel but it also runs part of the house so I worry that I need to increase the power to the panel.

-- Will work for wood...

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#7 posted 02-15-2012 01:09 AM

The Camaro is a 4 speed with a Hurst shifter.

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#8 posted 02-15-2012 01:09 AM

Ditto what bullethead.

Once sold you won’t be able to get it back! It would be awesome to be able carry on the old tradition, maybe not with your childen, but perhaps grandkids.

It really is a personal decision, I’m sure you will do whatever is right for you.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#9 posted 02-15-2012 01:11 AM

Its one of those decisions that I may regret both ways. It is definately a tough choice.

-- Will work for wood...

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#10 posted 02-15-2012 01:23 AM

I purchased a 06 Mustang V6 stick for my son (2012 National Merit Finalist).
I am hooked. I love the car.
I am trying to convince my son that he won’t need a car in college this fall.
Next vehicle will likely be a GT.

Dan, life is too short. What about a compromise? Park the camero outside the garage.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#11 posted 02-15-2012 01:28 AM

I would but I live in the northeast and the winters would destroy the car. I also don’t have a very big driveway.

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#12 posted 02-15-2012 01:32 AM

Electrical stuff uses funny math. Often things don’t add up.
You got a 60 A subpanel. Assuming that it is installed properly, you should able to draw 48 amp (60×80%) contiuous load off of it. Now, you need to do a little bit of math. What are the loads (new & old)? Now you new machine will be an new load. Now you used the continuous full load current as stated on your machine’s name plate or owner’s manual. This current value will not match the circuit breaker or receptacle. As long as the new load that you are adding alogn with the existing load don’t add up to be more then 48 A, you are OK. Now don’t worry about the table saw, drill press…..etc. What is the likelihood that you will run more then one machine at a time? Only you could anser that question. Of course if you got lights, TV, heater/Air Cond running while you are in the shop, you must take those loads into account.

I hope this helps and not cause confusions.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#13 posted 02-15-2012 01:35 AM

The panel is also used by the main house so I definately need to worry about the load.

-- Will work for wood...

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#14 posted 02-15-2012 01:42 AM

Do you have any idea what the new load is?
For $3K, it must be a pretty powerful machine.
I would speculate that the new machine will dim your lights when it starts. The Mrs wouldn’t be happy about it.
A new service is likely. Now the old house in my area has 100 A service.
The newer houses has a 200 amp service. So a 60 A service sounds awful small.

New service will require you to call the utility and you will need a new electrical panel.

-- I'll be a woodworker when I grow up. HHHOPKS

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#15 posted 02-15-2012 01:43 AM

How much am I looking at for a panel upgrade? I might have to adjust my tool choice. I’ll have to pull the power info off of the website.

-- Will work for wood...

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