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electricalD

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920 days ago

Hey Guys,
I have a 60 amp sub panel in my woodworking shop, fed from the house. I am looking at getting the CV 1800. Just got an email from CV stating the current rating of the motor is 20.8 Amps (220 V/5HP). The TS I am ordering (Grizzly:G0690) is rated 12.8 amps (220 V/3 HP). I am wondering if there will be any problems with running both. The issue here will be start up currents. Getting the CV up and running first should be ok but then trying to get a 3HP TS going on top of that may be an issue. It’s touch and go as I see it.
Any of you guys have something similar that knows if this can be done?

Dan

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton


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cuttwice

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#1 posted 919 days ago

I’m by no means an expert, but I just asked my electrician a similar question (I have a 40 amp sub-panel), and he said that if I started the cyclone first, I should be OK.

As you noted, the starting or “inrush” current draw is the problem, and if they’re not both starting at once, 60 amps should handle it fine (according to Sparky, anyway – actually, he said that about 40 amps, so 60 might be fine even if they are started together).

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Scot

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#2 posted 919 days ago

You have room to spare. But wouldn’t hurt to make it a habit of starting one at a time.

-- If the old masters had power tools, they would have used them. So get off your damn High Horse.

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electricalD

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#3 posted 919 days ago

Thanks fellas. I am going to start only one at a time. I just was concerned if I was on the threshold of the limit there. Rather than going through calculations myself I thought it would be better to ask.
Dan

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton

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Sarit

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#4 posted 919 days ago

You should be fine, but you also need to consider the amp draw of your lights and any potential air cleaner, electric heater, or A/C unit you might also have running at the same time.

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#5 posted 919 days ago

I think your next investment should be a electric upgrade. lol

-- New Auburn,WI

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electricalD

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#6 posted 919 days ago

Hey Sarit, The lights are all fluorescent so not much load there. The heating is electric though it will be on only when I am out of the shop. I have a new woodstove installed and I will be using that. As far as A/C is concerned it was -7 degrees C (20 deg Farenheit) this morning. I live in Canada, rarely would I need an A/C unit. But something to bear in mind Thanks.

Scott, the shop is new though I never planned on getting the Clearvue cyclone until now. So if I can accommodate it, I will

Dan

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton

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kizerpea

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#7 posted 916 days ago

check the max amps on each motor,(LRA) lock roter amps this is the starting mode.after the motor starts it drops to (RLA) RUN LOAD AMPS so starting one at the time would b good.

-- IF YOUR NOT MAKING DUST...YOU ARE COLLECTING IT! SOUTH CAROLINA.

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ScottN

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#8 posted 916 days ago

Your going to be very happy with your your new cyclone. I have the CV max. Its one of my best investments.

It was cheap though, compared to the cost of the Norfab pipe that was installed.

-- New Auburn,WI

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Steve Peterson

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#9 posted 915 days ago

I have a 50 amp subpanel in my workshop that runs the Clearview, plus a 5HP PM66 tablesaw, lights, and an overhead air filter. Occationally, I also run a 110V electric heater. The 50 amp breaker has never tripped. I always start the CV before turning on the table saw.

You should be OK with a 60 amp breaker.

-- Steve

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electricalD

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#10 posted 914 days ago

Hello Steve, I have posed this question on another woodworking forum and you have given me the best answer. Only because you have a similar situation as mine; the only difference being you have a feed that is 10 amps less than mine. I am an electrician by trade, but didn’t want (or had the time to) go and do the calculations on this. I figured the best way to get a good feel for this is to pose this question and see the response. Thanks for replying. Now I just have to decide on the right hand or left hand model and place my order.

Regards,
Dan

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton

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electricalD

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#11 posted 914 days ago

Thanks Scott, I have been in this researching phase for a few years now. I had intended on some other type of DC but then came across this CV unit. I read much of what Bill Pentz had to say and the reason for the design and that changed the course for me. So, before I buy any big tool I am going to get the DC system done before.

Thanks for responding,
Dan P.

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton

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ScottN

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#12 posted 914 days ago

Did you get the cyclone yet? I would like to follow you with your build. Maybe you can post your build in your projects.

-- New Auburn,WI

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electricalD

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#13 posted 914 days ago

Hi Scott, I just ordered it today as well as the mini. I probably won’t see it for a while as it takes 8 business days to get it to NL. Then I have to go away for 4 weeks and will get a look at it when I get home.
Dan

-- If there were no God, there would be no atheists, G. K. Chesterton

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Grandpa

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#14 posted 914 days ago

I have been following this thread for a couple of days. I also ordered a Clear Vue collector this morning (Feb 20). They said it would ship on Wednesday but the control box would come from Vermont or New Hampshire. I may not get mine up and going too quickly. I plan to do some electric upgrade at the same time. I was able to get some aluminum irrigation pipe (4” dia. – 150 ft and 20 ft of 5” dia.) that I plan to use. I may buy some other large dia. pipe but I do plan to use this. It has about 1/16” thick wall. Maybe it won’t look too bad. For the cost of pipe I can paint it with flowers…..LOL

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Manitario

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#15 posted 914 days ago

Not sure if you’re still following this thread Grandpa; but as a Clearvue owner, you may want to reconsider your plan for 4” and 5” ducting; my own experience is that the cyclone is way too powerful for 4 or 5”; both kill the massive amount of air the cyclone is capable of moving, as well, you may end up with chip clogs in such small ducts.

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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