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Forum topic by AtlCenter posted 02-11-2012 03:36 AM 1951 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AtlCenter

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02-11-2012 03:36 AM

I have worked for days trying to get Cut List to work correctly with SU 8. The cust list output is meaningless because it seems to measure its own dimentions vs the ones that Sketchup uses to measure parts.

I size a part to 3/4 but cutlist will say its ~3/4 (actual nominclature from cut list). Or it will come up with a measurement that is +_ 1/32 or 1/64 different and it will generate another board for this part to be cut from.

The only solution I can find it to constantly resize and rebuild a part even though sketchup says its the correct size. You would have to constantly rebuild parts to get the thing to work right.

Its a mystery to me why everyone thinks this is a useful tool???


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 02-11-2012 03:46 AM

I never thought that at all. Were slave enough to these computers now without the added non-beneficial nonsense. Those days you mention playing with that stuff are days you could have had the task done.

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StumpyNubs

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#2 posted 02-11-2012 04:21 AM

I love Sketchup. But I had to learn how to use it before the frustration turned to delight. Now I never build anything without first making a detailed sketchup model.

I haven’t tried the cut list plug-in because I have a computer in the shop and when I am cutting parts I just walk over to the computer, measure the part with the little tape do-dad, and then cut it.

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Mark Shymanski

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#3 posted 02-11-2012 04:27 AM

I have to agree with JAJune…organization and consistency (just like in manual drafting) is critical. Can draw far better in SU than I ever could (can?) manually. It is like any tool, you just have to spend a bit of time to learn to use it properly. daltx has a very useful extension, I admit it took me awhile to figure it but once I did I find it very useful.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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Paul M Cohen

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#4 posted 02-11-2012 06:49 PM

I recommend Google SketchUp the Missing Manual it is inexpensive, or available from your local library. It specifically addresses issues like this. JAAune is also correct in recommending adjusting precision.

I love Sketchup and use it to design all my woodwork, even projects that start from plans. I layed out my small shop (once and daved it) and before I add a new tool or storage unit I model it to see where it will fit. More than once this helped me realize what I planned would not fit.

-- Paul, Beaverton OR, www.TravelbyPaul.com

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DLCW

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#5 posted 02-11-2012 08:36 PM

I’ve been trying to get Cutlist for Sketchup to even work on my machine. All I ever get is a dialog saying:

This program cannot display the webpage

  • Most likely causes: You are not connected to the Internet. The website is encountering problems. There might be a typing error in the address.

    What you can try: Check your Internet connection. Try visiting another website to make sure you are connected.

    Retype the address.

    Go back to the previous page.

    More information*


I use another authors plugin that uses the same web interface that Cutlist supposedly uses and his plugins work great so I know it’s not something with my setup or installation. This has been ongoing for months and it has never worked for me so I can’t tell if it will give me good results or not.

Bummer because I’ve been a standalone Cutlist Plus program user since version 1 and I love the program. But now I do a lot of my furniture design in Sketchup and would love to be able to get my cutlists like I could do in standalone Cutlist…....

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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Paul M Cohen

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#6 posted 02-11-2012 11:00 PM

DLCW,
Try turning off (uncheck) Web Page since you are going to import it into Cutlist Plus you don’t need it. Just Check Cutlist Plus and it will output a file that you can import. This is all I ever do an it works great.

-- Paul, Beaverton OR, www.TravelbyPaul.com

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gillyd

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#7 posted 02-11-2012 11:06 PM

I use Sketch Up to design all of my builds, here is what works.

1. Be really careful when using components, make sure you know what you are doing here.
2. I don’t use groups, causes cut list to go bonkers thinking you have a block of wood.
3. MOST IMPORTANTLY: If you rescale something, you will start to lose your measurements. I think that is why you might be seeing ~15/32, etc. I never use rescale anymore if I want cut list to be accurate.
4. Save often and test cut list as you go.

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DLCW

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#8 posted 02-11-2012 11:42 PM

Paul,

Where do I turn off (uncheck) Web Page? I checked in Preferences and didn’t see anything there. TIA!

Will this disable other plugins that use the Web Pages?

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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Paul M Cohen

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#9 posted 02-12-2012 03:47 AM

When you select Plugin/Cutlist you should see the screen above. Unselect Web Page (it is checked in the picture) and save settings. When you run Cutlist it will only product a file that needs to be imported into Cutlist Plus.

-- Paul, Beaverton OR, www.TravelbyPaul.com

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willie

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#10 posted 02-12-2012 07:04 AM

I have never used Sketchup and the little bit I have seen of it confuses me. I have basically built most of my projects from “cartoons” scribbled on paper. After so many years of doing this, it seems easy to figure out my cutlists in my head write them down. There’s too much computer stuff I don’t understand and trying to learn it while woodworking seems to take the fun out of it. I guess I just like things simple and uncomplicated. I’m glad there is a system that helps you guys turns out some beautiful work, but it just makes my head smoke!!!

-- Every day above ground is a good day!!!

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DLCW

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#11 posted 02-12-2012 06:38 PM

Paul, I can’t even get the dialog box to come up. As soon as I click on Cutlist I get the following dialog box:

That’s all the further I can get. I wish I could at least get the dialog box the gives me some options like the dialog box you screen captured.

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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Paul M Cohen

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#12 posted 02-12-2012 08:30 PM

DLCW,
I have three suguestions in order of difficulty, first send me what more information says but most likely it will not help. Second Install another browser (Crome, Safari or Firefox) and make it the default browser, try Cutlist is it works your problem is solved and you can set IE back as your default browser. Third in Internet Explorer click on Tools, Internet Options and Advanced and click Reset. This will reset lots of stuff and you may not want to do it if you have customized IE a lot. For most people it is not a big deal.

-- Paul, Beaverton OR, www.TravelbyPaul.com

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DLCW

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#13 posted 02-12-2012 10:34 PM

Paul,

I have Firefox installed as my default browser and has been for a couple of years now.

I’ve loaded and reset IE, both 32-bit and 64-bit version. I’m wondering if Cutlist has an issue with 64-bit Windows…..

Like I said before this has been ongoing for several months and no matter what I try Cutlist just won’t load up on my system. I use a plugin that Chief Woodworker wrote that uses the same web pages that Cutlist supposedly uses and his plugin works great. I’m about to give up myself on Cutlist. I kinda agree with Cabmakers post above regarding time spent trying to get Cutlist working would be better spent in the shop making sawdust.

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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Paul M Cohen

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#14 posted 02-13-2012 03:50 AM

To go along with the theme of this post, “I totally gave up on 64-bit Internet Explorer”. I am running the 32 bit version of IE on Windows 7 64-bit and never had any issues. With the 64-bit version I have problems with most things I did. Try switching to 32-bit IE as your default and the problem should go away. Unfortunately I don’t remember how I disabled the 64-bit version of IE but you can Google it.

-- Paul, Beaverton OR, www.TravelbyPaul.com

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DLCW

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#15 posted 02-13-2012 05:29 PM

Disabled IE9. It no longer shows up on any menus so I assume it’s gone.

Unfortunately no change in Cutlist behavior. Not sure how it’s bring up an IE Window when there is no sign of being able to use IE9 on my machine. Oh well, I’ve got better things to do then continue troubleshooting this issue.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Oh the wonders and mysteries of technology. :-(

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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