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Forum topic by yrob posted 02-08-2012 05:20 AM 2605 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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yrob

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02-08-2012 05:20 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer

I think I found a good deal. Ive been looking for a jointer. This is the kind I like. Old heavy cast iron machinery from the 50-60’s. The seller wants $150.0 for it including the base and its got all the documentation, sharp knives, good working motor and massive cast iron fence. Can joint up to 6 1/4” wide boards and has a 36 ” long bed.

What is it? An old Craftsman ?

-- Yves


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#1 posted 02-08-2012 05:22 AM

That’s about the right price for this Jointer ,I would try jointing a board or two before buying it.

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#2 posted 02-08-2012 05:44 AM

I think it’s a Craftsman made by Emerson maybe as late as 1970 vintage, not sure. Got a bigger picture of that front view you could post or provide a link to?

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#3 posted 02-08-2012 05:48 AM

It looks exactly like the one I bought a couple of month back – heavy as heck! I did run a couple of boards through it and it did a nice job on them. Oh, I paid $75 for it through Craigs List. Why not offer $75 for it and maybe end up splitting the difference?

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#4 posted 02-08-2012 05:51 AM

Could be at late as the late 80’s. Any part number on it like in the nnn.nnnnnn format? I think that red, black, and white label on the lower left side is a Craftsman sticker and should have the part number on it.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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#5 posted 02-08-2012 05:55 AM

I dont have more close up pics. I will know when I go check it out. I will heed Jim’s advice and take my straightedge as well as a couple boards with me to try to joint them on this machine.

-- Yves

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#6 posted 02-08-2012 06:14 AM

I think they lack an outfeed table adjustment. Worth
a bit less than what the seller wants in my area, but if
used jointers are scarce in your area the price may be
fair.

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#7 posted 02-08-2012 08:29 AM

Looks like model # 103.20620 just like mine. The first three digits denote who made the tool for craftsman and what era. A search on the OWWM site got me the following info.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=222 will show Manufacturers by the first 3 digits. # 103 series is King-Seeley / Emerson

http://www.owwm.org/ if you need any documentation you can search here also. Buy it, offer 100 bucks and meet in the middle. For a small machine it will work to expectation.

I would guess that machine was cast in the mid-60’s if the first three digits are 103.

Freud sells replacement blades to original spec. Add to that a HF dial gauge with a magnetic base for 28 bucks and your up and running.

If I can offer any assistance just PM me, The machine is bullet proof and serviceable.

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#8 posted 02-09-2012 12:08 AM

I agree with a1Jim. Try a couple boards if possible. This might be a nice deal or you could be in trouble. I’ve had one very similar to this in the beginning of my journey. The weys were sloppy and lacked fine tuning capability. Turned out to be ok to get me started but I soon outgrew its lack of calibration ability. On the flip side, some of these have excellent fine tuning ability and are forever yours if you can find one. Also be aware that in the future you may desire to modify to increase infeed and out feed length to suit your need. Also, have fun no matter what happens. Try for $100 after trying it out, be gentle though lol…
Frank

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#9 posted 02-09-2012 12:24 AM

Side note: That looks like Blanchard Grind on that. I don’t think they used that method of surface grind on tools prior to mid to late seventies. They did occasionally I think, I could be mistaken. Would love to hear how you make out though! Good Luck!!
Frank

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#10 posted 02-09-2012 12:26 AM

These older small jponters may have tail drop at the end of the outfeed bed. Take a straight edge with you and check that both infeed and out feed tables are on one plane without drop or skew. Also that the tips of the knives are exactly on the level of the outfield table. If the outfeed table drops you will not be able to produce a straight edge on a board. Also bring a square to see if fence can be set at exactly 90 degrees

Samuel

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#11 posted 02-09-2012 02:00 AM

I have one like this. I bought mine new in 1976. IF you adjust the knives properly you will have a good machine. A quick check to see if the knfie and rear table are aligned properly, take straight edge, lay it on the rear table over the knife. Turn the knife by hand backward, checking all 3 blades, the knife should barely touch the straight edge and carry it backward about 1/2 to 3/4 inch. Do this test the entire WIDTH of each knife.If the rear table is level or lower than the knife you will cut tapers every time ! Each knife has adjusting screws to move the knive up or down. LOTS of tuning adjustments can be made on this machine ! The fence had a micro adjustment to calibrate for a 90 degree setting as well.
I would buy another one again if mine ever wears out !

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#12 posted 02-12-2012 06:30 PM

So I got the jointer. It is model 113.20621 and was made by Emerson. There are leveling jacks to adjust the back table coplanar with front one. I did not have to do that as it was already pretty good.

The end of the outfeed table is not dropping. Thats good.

I jointed a couple boards on it. Worked well enough but I did notice a little ripple cut on the edge. Turned out not all knives were set at same height. Two were too low and the third one was doing all the cutting. After I adjusted the knives to be a hair above the outfeed table, got a much cleaner cut.

I am going to dissassemble and clean up the parts (some rust/grime on it) and probably upgrade the belt to a segmented belt for even less vibration.

So far looks like a good deal.

-- Yves

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