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Forum topic by jakep_82 posted 02-02-2012 08:03 AM 3609 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-02-2012 08:03 AM

I’m new to LJ and woodworking in general so this is my first post. I just bought a Craftsman 315.228310 off of CL. It was owned by a contractor and obviously used a lot, but everything was there and it worked well in the demo before I bought it. The only visible problem is surface rust on the table which isn’t a big deal. After I got it home and started putting it back together I discovered that the cradle is broken at the motor mount. I can buy a new one from Sears for $74, but I’m wondering if anyone has an opinion on whether it’s worthwhile. I can probably sell it as is for what I paid, but I’ve been searching for weeks for a decent contractor saw in the sub $200 price range. Any advice is appreciated.

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#1 posted 02-02-2012 08:17 AM

Welcome to Ljs
I’m not fond of Sears saws but there are not many saws under $200 .If you repair it then you will have close to $300 in it.
If there’s any way you can bump your budget up I would sell this one because it’s been ridden hard and put away wet.
If you can find a used ridgid contractor saw you might have something more usable. New they are pretty good buys.

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#2 posted 02-02-2012 08:19 AM

I forgot to mention in the original post that I only paid $75 for it. If I replace the cradle I would still only have $150 into it. I’m just not sure I’ll find something better for that much money.

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#3 posted 02-02-2012 08:35 AM

That’s pretty cheep all right , I would only wonder what else is wrong with it. I guess it depends what you plan on doing with it, if your only going to use it for one job it might be worth it,but if you want something that you can use long term ,I would still consider another saw. Some people like sears saws but the ones I’ve had that I bought new I had nothing but trouble with. I recommend Ridgid saws because a number of my students have bought them and find them to be great saws for the money. I’m sure others will give you there thoughts on this so see what they have to say .As for me I would buy a better saw.

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#4 posted 02-02-2012 08:54 AM

I saw a Ridgid TS3660 pop up a week ago for $200, but I was too slow. I’ll keep looking and see if something else comes up in the next couple weeks.

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#5 posted 02-02-2012 03:39 PM

Jim – Many of the Craftsman and Ridgid saws are nearly identical. The older Emerson models were made for Sears until 1997, then were made for Ridgid from 1997 to 2004. From 1997 to 2004 TTI/Ryobi made the Craftsman saws, then were made for Ridgid from 2004 to roughly 2007. There’s very little difference between the basic guts of the saws, and many of the parts are interchangeable. In 2004 Steel City/Orion made the Craftsman hybrid saws (22104, 22114, 22124). Around 2007 and 2008 Steel City/Orion made the Ridgid R4511…about that same time Craftsman came out with their new 22116 (which replaced the older 22124), which was made by Steel City/Orion…it has the same guts as the R4511, but offered a full enclosure and better fence. More recently, Sears and Ridgid both offer a nearly identical saw made by Dayton….R4512 and 21833.

Buying a saw is not as simple as picking your favorite brand anymore….the lines are heavily blurred. Researching/buying should be model specific. You may not like Sears, but the facts are that most of their better saws in the past couple of decades are close siblings of the Ridgid saws every step of the way (excluding the bottom price ranges in the $100-$250 range).

The good news with Jake’s saw, is that many of the parts from other TTI/Ryobi made contractor saws (whether Craftsman or Ridgid) should be interchangeable, and you may even find that the parts from an Emerson made contractor saw could fit also, so the list of potential donor saws could be pretty vast.

The fence on your saw is worth roughly the $75 you paid. A working motor is worth $50-$75, the legstand, wings, handwheels, blade guard, miter gauge, switch, etc., also have some value….you can always part this one out and buy another if you want. It’s easy to find inexpensive older models with the crappy steel Emerson fence, then you could add your fence to one of those and part out everything else. They’re not overly complex machines.

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#6 posted 02-02-2012 04:20 PM

Since you only paid $75 for it. I would get the part and fix it up, then it would be worth $200 and you have profit of $50. Then use it for a while and if you like it keep it and if not sell it and collect your profit and use it on another saw.

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#7 posted 02-02-2012 04:38 PM

One thought would be to list here for new part, before you stick alot of money in it check blade run out. If the bearings are bad sell it and keep looking. I just sold a craftsman just like that one, cleaned up, for 200.00, I had used it for 25 years. I use to tip it in and out of pickup, as the jobs I got required. I bought a rigid on sale 6 years ago for 400.00. I gave the old craftsman to my son, then this summer I picked up another rigid on cl for my son for 250.00 in new condition. The saws have the same main frame, but when they are tired they are done.

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#8 posted 02-02-2012 05:42 PM

I can’t tell from your picture the exact damage. Is it a crack? This could fix a crack. JB weld. I’ve used it a lot. Welding really would be a better fix, but this stuff is a good second choice, and it’s in the $5 ballpark.

If this is a place that can’t be welded, maybe you could fashion a brace and bolt it in.

Good luck!

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#9 posted 02-02-2012 05:49 PM

I’m with bugz- check blade run out. Check if the miter slot is worn. Does the blade crank up and down smoothly? Does the saw run smooth? You might not have much of a saw there even after you fix what is broke. That feller what sold you that saw knew it was broke, and probably knew it would have other things wrong.

Hey, I hope I am wrong, but look closer at what you have.

It seems like stuff pops up on the used market 2 weeks after you don’t need it anymore. Patience is a virtue, no doubt. Sooner or later something good comes along.

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#10 posted 02-02-2012 05:50 PM

Sears is closing a bunch of stores, if you can find one of those they’re pushing their inventory out the door. The one here had that 21833 saw for $400.

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#11 posted 02-02-2012 05:59 PM

I have a similar saw, and it works well. (I did put a new fence on it however) If there are no other issues with the saw, get the replacement part, you still have a good deal.

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#12 posted 02-02-2012 06:21 PM

@hairy – It’s a little hard to tell from the picture, but the corner of the casting where the support shaft from the motor goes through is completely gone. Even if I wanted to JB Weld it, the piece is missing.

I think after hearing the feedback I’m going to check the arbor run out. If it’s good then I’ll replace the piece and use the saw for a while. After I clean the top and set everything up properly it should be worth more than I have into it (not counting my time). In the meantime I’ll keep shopping for a better saw and if I get one I’ll sell this saw.

Thanks everyone for the advise.

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#13 posted 02-02-2012 06:23 PM

Welcome abroad and furthermore people are going to have many opinions on what’s a good saw or what not a good saw. It’s up to the individual as to what he or she once to do with it. As for my 2 cent the saw you purchased it’s an okay saw for starters. I had the same TS and I have no problem with it. I learned a grated deal on how to use the saw and how it worked on different types of wood and thickness of wood. You can learn on it and get your feet wet and for the price you paid you couldn’t beat it. You can tweak it as you go along with out putting to much money into it. If you have a compressor, blow out the dust and lightly grease the worm screw not too much grease. If you buy from Sears their over price when it comes to buying parts. I would try ebay or Good luck and have fun cutting wood not fingers.

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#14 posted 02-03-2012 11:21 PM

As luck would have another saw exactly the same as what I previously bought just popped up for $125. This one is missing a crank wheel, but is other wise in better condition including an intact trunnion. I just bought it and I’m going to steal the wheel from my other saw and sell it for parts. This saves me hours of work replacing the trunnion and I’ll probably end up with a better saw for only slightly more money.

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#15 posted 02-05-2012 05:01 PM

For future reference, anytime a contractor is selling a tool, unless they’re going out of business, and any part of it looks well worn (such as the saw table in your photo), it is usually because they have already gotten all the usefullness out of the tool and now want to get rid of it before repairs cost more than its worth.

Now, that’s not a rule, just what I’ve seen to be usually the case. There are rare times that some get rid of a tool simply because they don’t like it or found a good deal on something better. That is rare though. Contractors have to look at their profit margin and are going to get their money’s worth if possible, from any tool before parting with it.


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