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toddbeaulieu

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01-29-2012 03:40 PM

I’d love to hear how you have dealt with the depth requirements of a slider. I’m planning a new station and really wanted it against a wall, rather than in the center. When I factor in the sliding depth, a dust hood and an extra inch for a fence on the saw itself, it’s …. DEEP! If I put a deep counter like this in, would I regret it? Do any of you have feedback with such a setup?

Behind the fence: 23”.
From the fence to the cutting capacity: 15”

That’s 38”!

I suppose I could have the saw stick out and not provide a platform for the full 15”, but to get it down to 30”, I’d have just 7” left. Sure, that’s enough for 99% of my cross cutting, I’m guessing, but it means an entire wall consumed for a 7” surface!

I’m sure I could find a way to use all that space behind the fence, like with cubbies and then cabinets, etc. The setup I’m think of is the Norm Abrams one, with cabinets and drawers under it. I need the storage.

Oh, and I’d really REALLY hate to cut a hole in the wall!


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#1 posted 01-29-2012 05:22 PM

They take up a lot of space. Do you already have the saw? I think the Hitachi and newer Bosch saws require a little less space. A hole in the wall gets back 4”, could be useful. Maybe just try to make the best multi use of the space as you suggested. Drawers, cubbies, extra work surface, things like that. But what do I know? I still have the same unresolved problem too.

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#2 posted 01-29-2012 05:30 PM

I read this and then walked down to my shop to measure my set up. It is 20” from the fence to the wall.

As you probably know, there are sliders that do not need as much clearance in the back. I can think of 3 (Hitachi, Bosch and Festool) but they are all quite pricy.

In my own case, I am okay with my current setup, but not thrilled with it. If I ever need to replace my miter saw (a 10” Makita SCMS) I will probably go back to a non-sliding 12” saw. I’m not convinced that I really need the extra capacity of a slider.

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#3 posted 01-29-2012 05:36 PM

I had the Bosch slider and I build a cabinet 40” deep, I really didn’t like the use of space. And I traded with a contractor, and ended up with a new 12” Bosch and it has worked good for me. I really liked the slider, but it was to big for my garage shop. The new ones are super, but with a big cost also.

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#4 posted 01-29-2012 06:39 PM

My 10” Makita miter saw top is 30” deep, and the saw sticks out about 6”. I used the space behind the saw for a dust collection box. Dust collection is decent. Still need to trap more dust, without interfearing with the miter/bevel movements.

-- JJ

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#5 posted 01-29-2012 07:29 PM

There aren’t too many options I have found unless you go to Kapex (Festool) where the rails project to the front, and there is virtually no additional room required behind the saw.

I have a Kapex and the 12” Milwaukee, the Milwaukee sticks out 8” past front of table, nothing else I can do but turn the saw to 45 degrees when not using it so it doesn’t get bumped.

I like the dust collection in the photo above, should help a lot.

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#6 posted 01-29-2012 08:03 PM

I like the dust collection box behind it.

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#7 posted 01-29-2012 11:16 PM

We use a Kapex as well so this is no longer an issue. With the old DeWalt, though we just had to pull it away from the wall and leave it there. In order to make the best possible use of space, we had drawers directly under the saw. The extensions on either side were supported on the ends so there was space underneath to put rolling carts and/or a garbage can to hold the cutoffs. A couple box fans would get stored in the space between the saw cabinet and the wall.

There was also a large, semi-circular dust hood behind the saw.

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404 - Not Found

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#8 posted 01-30-2012 02:49 AM

My FIL’s cabinet/stand for the Dewalt 12” slider has two casters at the back, so it’s just a case of lifting it at the front and pulling to move it easily from the wall.

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#9 posted 01-30-2012 03:08 AM

My old shop before I moved to thy own house… I had the mitre saw on a sliding locking pull out becnch. When it was no in use I stored at 45. It didn’t save a lot of space, but it meant the bench it was on didn’t have to be so wide and take up vauable space I didn’t have.

In my new shop lost the floor but gained a space (eventually when I can afford to get it all done) and the mitre saw will just sit in its current position anyway and simply has the rom to move. Another option is to buy a mitre (selling the sliding) I have found that I can do 99.9 per-cent of the cuts on the table saw… and really the mitre saw isn’t really needed… he only different is that the mitre saw is quicker to set up.

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#10 posted 01-30-2012 04:26 AM

I have the Bosh 12” slider and built the new yankee miter box and storage. Cut a hole in the wall of my garage into the back yard about 44” wide and 20” tall. Then I built a box that hangs on the outside of the garage to keep out the weather. Works great, but I have to repair it when I move. May be getting the Kapex soon so we’ll see.

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#11 posted 01-30-2012 06:50 AM

toddbeaulieu I agree with uglysteve. With most saws the only way to gain more slider room is to build out the other side of the wall.
Some people just don’t have the space or they don’t want to alter their walls of their shop.
I found an interesting storage solution in a youtube video which has one of those new bosch glide saws. If you’d like skip to 2min25sec.

-- Aaron - central California "If you haven't got the time to do it right, when will you find the time to do it over?"

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#12 posted 01-30-2012 07:13 AM

Hey UglySteve Will you post a blog of your mitersaw station that you described above. I would love to see it. I too have been kicking around the idea of building out the side of my shop to accommodate my siding miter saw.

-- Aaron - central California "If you haven't got the time to do it right, when will you find the time to do it over?"

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toddbeaulieu

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#13 posted 01-30-2012 07:45 PM

Lots of good input. Thank you all. I spent Sunday looking through designs here and elsewhere, while designing the station in sketchup. It’s a work in progress, subject to change considerably.

I’m now thinking of a hybrid approach for clearance, wherein I’ll open up a hole on the interior wall, but it won’t breach the exterior. That will give me 5.5+ inches, which is better than nothing.

Attached is an early preview of what I’m thinking of. I believe I’m still going to end up with a deep cabinet in order to have surface in front of the track … which I really think I want. I believe I can come up with some really cool uses for the space behind the track, such as “cubbies”, battery charging, wall cabinets, etc. At this moment, the unit (top) is 31” deep and 12’ long.

I loved the idea of incorporating the mortising machine into the track so it’s readily available. I could also eliminate the crummy hold down that came with my Jet, in favor of more robust option as I design how that mounts up.

This is looking like a real beast, but the idea is build each section seperately.

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jusfine

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#14 posted 01-30-2012 07:52 PM

^ That looks great, but I would move the cubby holes so they are not directly under the saw, less sawdust gets in drawers..

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#15 posted 01-30-2012 08:01 PM

todd if you would like I can send you the measurement for the bench I just finished.

-- Dave, W.V.

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