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bluekingfisher

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482 days ago

Morning all,

I am about to build a chimneyl cabinet for the good lady. I have some very old panels of reclaimed English oak which I intend to use for the main carcase. I don’t quite have enough long lengths of the old timber for the cabinet face frame so I will have to use some new kiln dried American oak (as this is what I have in my ws)

In order to tie it all in, I will stain it, partly to match the other furniture but also to disguise the variance in the wood species.

Here is my dilemma fellahs, I was going to use meth based shellac as a sealer prior to staining, colour with a spirit based stain (this I think is OK?) My intended top coats will be a multiple coats of thinned down varnish which is cellulose based. Will the cellulose varnish top coats react with the math based shellac or stain?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated .

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Steve Donnelly

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#1 posted 482 days ago

Much easier, and much safer, to use water based products. Condition, sand, tone variance, sand, stain, sand, spray top-coat x 3 with 600 in between..

-- Steve, The Hill Country, TX; www.themillworkguys.com

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renners

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#2 posted 482 days ago

‘Ello, ‘Ello, ‘Ello

Just saw that you are in Cambridge, when you say “spirit” based stain, do you mean COLRON?

That stuff melts plastic so I don’t know what it would do a shellac sealer.

I would go the waterbased route, look at Woodfinishesdirect.co.uk, Their w/b stains are mixable and can be diluted which will give you better control for colour matching. The Fiddes Hardwax Oil my be worth a look too.

Cellulose won’t have any effect on w/b stain. Are you applying the topcoat by brush? If you are I’d suggest polyurethane.

Of course, it goes without saying, whatever you do, try it on a test piece first.

-- Do or do not, there is no try

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bluekingfisher

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#3 posted 482 days ago

Steve, Remers, thanks for the info fellahs, I’ll look at the water based route as you both appear to favour that way of staining.

Remers, no the stain is not COLRON, I bought a gallon can of “medium oak” from ebay, I’ve tested it on a few raw scraps to establish it’s colour, it seems OK and I liked the colour but I’ll have a look at the web site you recommend

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