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Forum topic by WardH posted 01-24-2012 05:33 PM 2082 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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WardH

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01-24-2012 05:33 PM

I’m not really a woodworker, just a wood tinkerer. Biggest problem has always been trying to work with wood in the basement and dusting everything up. So I moved to a wood shed and working outdoors. Of course that severly limits what I can do due to weather.

So I just bought a Powermatic Band Saw and decided I need to do what I need to do to set it up in the basement.

So I figure I need a dust collector. Here is a list of my dust producing tools:
14” Band Saw (4” dust port)
10” table saw (2.5”? dust port)
10” Chop/Miter Saw (1” dust port)
Palm and belt sander (neither have dust collection ports)

I bought the Delta 50-720 1hp 650CFM 1 Micron Filter Dust Collector. I normally will research something like this for months before buying but I bought this on the spot.
Now I am wondering
Did I buy enough dust collector?
Budget is thin, which is why I bought this instead of the 1250cfm model. Now I read about the HF DC.
I am looking for less noise than my Shop Vac produces and I will be only using one machine at a time so I don’t mind moving the hose.

Any suggestions? Is this Delta unit enough for my list of tools?

Thanks
Ward

-- Best Regards, Ward


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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 01-24-2012 05:46 PM

It is. Some will suggest a better filter bag, but, it will do the job for collecting the majority of the debris from the tools you listed. Looks like you may have to spring for some adapters. Rockler has a pretty slick quick disconnect set with a handle. Might check it out.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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HorizontalMike

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#2 posted 01-24-2012 07:11 PM

Just a suggestion—how about keeping the sanding confined to the shed? My shop is a 24’X30’ garage that the Harley occupies as well (1/4 of space) and I have noticed that it sure would be nice to have a sanding booth or some such. This would also make it easier to keep the dust migration into the house at a minimum.

The rest of the tools will do fine with that Delta DC, IMO.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#3 posted 01-24-2012 10:47 PM

Mike and Ward,
Have you seen those home made sanding boxes? They have a perforated hard board top on a plywood box with an inlet for a shop vac hose. A guy could just attach a toilet flange to the box over a 4” hole and use the DC. Sure would be quieter. I haven’t made one but I have the toilet flange arrangement on my band saw, home made SCMS hood and “V” sander. Perfect fit for my DC hoses.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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syenefarmer

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#4 posted 01-24-2012 11:05 PM

I agree that the dust collector you purchased is powerful enough to handle the tools you mentioned. It will work just fine with the bandsaw and table saw but no so well with the miter saw.

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WardH

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#5 posted 01-25-2012 04:49 AM

The sanding box looks like a real good solution. I can make than an early project.
I have been checking out the Rockler attachments. I do have a HF store nearby and they carry attachments also.
My plan is to mount the DC in a corner and run a pipe along the wall to the center where there will be two outlets. One 4” for machines and one 2 1/2” for shop cleaning tools.
I think a router table will be my next shop tool.

Thanks for the help!

-- Best Regards, Ward

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Loren

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#6 posted 01-25-2012 05:17 AM

650 cfm is more than good enough for your requirements. Plenty
of dust will get airborne and otherwise uncollected though. Dust
collectors really do a good chop with heavier chips, but the fine
dust such as produced by a bandsaw and the airborne dust thrown
out by miter saws are not easy to collect.

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JAAune

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#7 posted 01-25-2012 05:29 AM

If you want to know how to get optimal collection there’s a good site for that information.

Bill Pentz's Dust Collection Site

It takes some serious effort to actually collect the fine dust. A lot of it has to do with the way you run the pipe and how well the tool itself is setup to contain dust though. The collector itself is only half the issue. Some tools such as most table saws have terrible collection issues but if you look around this site you’ll find some topics with pictures of inexpensive mods people did to their equipment.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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Gene Howe

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#8 posted 01-26-2012 12:21 AM

Ward,
This was just posted by LJ David Grimes. Click on his link for the free Rockler plan. It looks like a good plan.
Sanding Table

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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WardH

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#9 posted 01-26-2012 05:55 AM

Gene,
TThanks for the link! That is perfect for what I want. Maybe be my first project once my BS is up and running. Assembly is going slow due to work and house painting. I am averaging about a bolt a day.
Was talking to the wife about the dust collector. She told me don’t be cheap and don’t let her be coughing on saw dust.
So, plan for now is to upgrade to Delta 50-760 and Winn 35A cartridge.

-- Best Regards, Ward

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Grandpa

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#10 posted 01-26-2012 06:03 AM

I believe you can buy an adapter from Rockler (and many other places) that is going to be as good as the toilet flange that Gene mentioned and cheaper too. Check some of those options. The sanding box mentioned above should take care of a lot of sanding dust. You might want invest in a good air cleaner too. Those are $300 or so and they do work.

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Gene Howe

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#11 posted 01-26-2012 04:50 PM

Grandpa, This one?
My toilet Flanges are $3.99.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Grandpa

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#12 posted 01-26-2012 05:55 PM

Gene, I think toilet flanges in my area are higher than that. At any rate it doesn’t hurt to check prices does it?

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